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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart
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      Aw man, that's really a shame to see all those plugins cracked, I thought we got more head start over the bad guys...

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey
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        As far as I'm aware none of my HISE based libraries have been shared without (or even with) my permission, so I must be unpopular.

        Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
        My Patreon - HISE tutorials
        YouTube Channel - Public HISE tutorials

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        • ?
          A Former User @d.healey
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          @d-healey Is there a hidden message in your statement?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @A Former User
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            @UrsBollhalder I wonder if those who illegally share libraries aren't so interested in sharing libraries that they're allowed to share, or I've just flown under the radar.

            Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
            My Patreon - HISE tutorials
            YouTube Channel - Public HISE tutorials

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              A Former User @DabDab
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              @DabDab 😂... Well... If you want to keep the hackers away, you better get good at it my friend! I am not sure my feeble attempts at this would really bring that much benefit... I just read in an earlier post, where @Lindon described his method of tackling these things. So if he still has his stuff on these platforms, I doubt that our efforts will be rewarded. There is a much bigger hammer needed probably, or maybe an anti-hammer (Open source)?!?

              I haven't thought about this myself too much, tbh! It is a problem, but for Kontakt libraries as well!

              There are many questions I haven't really tackled yet myself... Open source, closed source, simple copy protection, more serious copy protection, custom-made downloader, Pulse downloader (with watermarking system... though the guys you are worried about probably don't give a shit!)...

              I am not sure it is worth the fuss to be honest... These are different kinds of people... Buyers buy, freebie peeps will download freebies and hackers will steal... and probably never buy anyways... It bothers me to hear, for sure, but I am not sure it really influences your sales that much! I think the 50'000$ customer is just a different customer from the 500$ or 50$ customer... There's room for overlap, certainly, but someone who can just pay the 50'000$ will not buy (or maybe even look at) the 50$ option... Different folks!

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              • ?
                A Former User @d.healey
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                @d-healey I think there is a really interesting point in that statement! So I understood you right! Is your stuff also on Loot Audio and Plugin Boutique and the likes?

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @A Former User
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                  @UrsBollhalder said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

                  Is your stuff also on Loot Audio and Plugin Boutique

                  Not those, but some are on Audio Plugin Deals

                  Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
                  My Patreon - HISE tutorials
                  YouTube Channel - Public HISE tutorials

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                  • orangeO
                    orange @DabDab
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                    @DabDab After seeing even iLok was hacked last year, I don't think about that much anymore.

                    develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                    macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                    • hisefiloH
                      hisefilo @orange
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                      @orange totally agree. Pirates are pirates

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                      • DabDabD
                        DabDab @orange
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                        @orange @UrsBollhalder True (y) .

                        See what Hornet says about their plugins

                        "The HoRNet has no copy protection, we don’t believe in copy protection, they are always cracked and they are annoying for the users, we all know you are not going to give away the plugin on the internet…
                        So simply download the plugin and enjoy your recordings!"

                        Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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                          A Former User @DabDab
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                          @DabDab Wow. That's quite a position... Well. There's the whole spectrum I suppose... It takes some creativity to come up with ways to tackle this. Didn't @d-healey say in his live stream on Sunday that only license-buyers get access to certain kinds of bonuses?!? I found that interesting!

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @A Former User
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                            @UrsBollhalder said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

                            that only license-buyers get access to certain kinds of bonuses?

                            I wouldn't call them bonuses. Licensed users get access to downloads from my server, customer support tickets, and updates.

                            Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
                            My Patreon - HISE tutorials
                            YouTube Channel - Public HISE tutorials

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon
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                              Well - after the last week of dealing with social media about releases I'm pretty sanguine about this sort of thing. .. my current position is "not likely to build another CR product ever......" - I will probably recover but right now I'm completely over the music software industry.

                              HISE Development for hire.
                              www.channelrobot.com

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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart
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                                @Lindon have you noticed a dip in your sales when the cracked releases came out? There are different experiences out there from sales being cut by 80% to even increases in sales (because of the publicity).

                                Don't feel obligated to answer this though...

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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @Christoph Hart
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                                  @Christoph-Hart said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

                                  @Lindon have you noticed a dip in your sales when the cracked releases came out? There are different experiences out there from sales being cut by 80% to even increases in sales (because of the publicity).

                                  Don't feel obligated to answer this though...

                                  -well sales on these products have been falling away for a while now, but yeah sales "fell off a cliff"

                                  HISE Development for hire.
                                  www.channelrobot.com

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                                  • DabDabD
                                    DabDab @Lindon
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                                    @Lindon Can you Complain or DMCA to put down your pirated plugins ?

                                    Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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                                    • DabDabD
                                      DabDab @d.healey
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                                      @d-healey That means Only licensed users get the plugins. If someone wants to try your plugins as a Demo or 10 days trial, is that possible?

                                      Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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                                      • LindonL
                                        Lindon @DabDab
                                        last edited by

                                        @DabDab - on these sites?

                                        https://magesypro.pro/

                                        • they are in Russia, and could care less about DMCA

                                        HISE Development for hire.
                                        www.channelrobot.com

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart
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                                          @Lindon you might want to alter your copy protection a little bit for your upcoming release - it looks like they found a way to generate a keygen for all your products, so if you make sure that they have to "recrack" Horizen (or at least try to figure out a new key generator) the chances of it staying unpirated a bit longer increase vastly.

                                          But yeah, this sucks big time.

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                                          • Christoph HartC
                                            Christoph Hart
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                                            Oh and the links on my favorite crack site I used to lurk around when I was 13 point to rapidgate and other file hosters so if you want, I can send you a list of the links and you can then file a takedown request directly at the 3-4 file hosters (they actually respond to these kind of requests).

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