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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart
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      Don't use the Moog filter, it's bad, in fact I'll remove it in the next version. Use the Ladder filter, it sounds similar (24dB/Octave) but without these nasty artifacts.

      I haven't used multiple samples in one group for a longer time, but the ticks (I assume you mean "clicks") come from the fact that the unisono feature has to randomly skip the sample start a little bit to avoid nasty phasing issues and should be solveable with a short envelope attack time (about 5ms).

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        lalalandsynth @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart said in Tick on note ON when using unisono?:

        ple start a little bit to avoid nasty phasing issues and should be solveable with a short envelope attack time (about 5ms).

        I tried that , did not help , will explore further.

        I had to abandon using groups as when I had more then one sampler in the group i would get clicks when played , even with no unisono. It would be nice to be able to use the groups ,but I can get by now with linking all the adsr of the 3 samplers.

        Also, small issue , when using 3 samplers either in a group or separate , when disabling one of them the audio cuts out .
        In my case I am making a synth that enables disables additional sample maps /samplers via a switch , but audio cuts out when switching the sampler on off.

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @lalalandsynth
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          @lalalandsynth dont disable the samplers - use a simple gain on each one...set to -100dB and engage when you want the sampler disabled.

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Lindon
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            @Lindon It's probably better to use a MidiMuter, that way voices won't be wasted.

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              lalalandsynth @d.healey
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              @d-healey that is why i wanted to use the disable , will look into a midi muter. Am i not running into the risk of hanging notes that way ?

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                d.healey @lalalandsynth
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                @lalalandsynth Not if you enable the Fix stuck notes button.

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                  @d-healey said in Tick on note ON when using unisono?:

                  @lalalandsynth Not if you enable the Fix stuck notes button.

                  The problem with using the midi muter for switching is that it needs a retrigger , so not suitable for a Switch on the GUI.

                  Also.
                  After trying everything with the groups , it seem that they are too buggy .
                  I get clicks even when not using the unisono and also the occasional hanging note.

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                    d.healey @lalalandsynth
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                    @lalalandsynth said in Tick on note ON when using unisono?:

                    The problem with using the midi muter for switching is that it needs a retrigger , so not suitable for a Switch on the GUI.

                    What do you mean needs a retrigger?

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                      lalalandsynth @d.healey
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                      @d-healey
                      Say you have an organ and you have switches for 2" 8" 16" and you use the midi muter to switch them on/off.
                      When you switch any of them while holding a note , nothing happens , not until you play another note, which makes sense as a midi muter I guess but not for a switch on the GUI.

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                        d.healey @lalalandsynth
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                        @lalalandsynth Ah I see, that's new information which completely changes the approach I would take. I'd probably use a MIDI muter (for future notes) in combination with a script effect (or simple gain) to dip the gain smoothly.

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                          lalalandsynth @d.healey
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                          @d-healey I am sorry , I have an issue with being clear in my descriptions ! :)
                          Ok, will look into that , thanks !

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