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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @ustk
      last edited by

      I'm testing pretty much this setup:

      1. global mod => LFO
      2. hardcoded FX in master chain with network:
        • 1 parameter, set to combined
        • modulates a osc.freqRatio
        • extra_mod slot has a MatrixModulator connected to the LFO
        • no preset, nothing, just the default state

      Load VST3 instance => pitch wobbles. Before the fix it didn't.

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      • ustkU
        ustk @Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart Are you exporting an FX or INSTRUMENT?

        Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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        • ustkU
          ustk @Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart Any snippet for me to test out?

          Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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          • ustkU
            ustk @ustk
            last edited by ustk

            @Christoph-Hart I've made this simple snippet and it doesn't work. Not from UI parameter, not from LFO...
            What did I do wrong? 🤔

            HiseSnippet 1946.3oc2Y0rbibaDFinfVsZW63s104PpbfGksWqZFpgTRUNXt5OaVdoDsHsbpjCJPy.RhRy.LYFvUhNUtma4UxOB4IHUdDxafciAyOXjHszxUVdKSUEKBz.n+Pit+5FP8hEdzjDQLxZsASinHqmh6OkKGu2XBii5rOx5CwRZhrgciV1MscQ6NMhjjP8QVV09R0Xrd7xnzO++uXWR.g6QK6BgNUv7nulExjk8F09qYAAGR7oCXgFi1scGOAeOQfXBfmZXaTDw6BxH5QD0vVBi9JRxXj0mh8caQItt9dzFCota277s1bys8Z4Z6a2pAsYqgD6la4NzEYsxA9LoHtuj.6Bj0x6J7m1er3RtVAmxRXmGPUMbP8AMq69PQfuZKp5Es2XVfeubCUBBYg6UZ1poMau.2k4yJ5uz78QoBpWNCSCn0RUgWsJvywDd1FvaFPxx.RKqgzyv88hYQxRIJ77DbGtjFOj.mSlPQOVj0Of2S.CfK2HjbA8vXnQwDVuks8KqCe8I+ogS3dRlfWWvORHoGyW+SV6er1iW6etV8qKZ3vYJSolXQP.MdlhUtFw+bSbc9jvyowur9aHASnECD19Uso34aSMOx8z6ZiAJ3c3L4wQT97bDPYlJk8OCUvPkoV+OLy52Of4SiQLvH+H7WyEm6fRAbla++66ew+8KPeam8IRR9x.qHnkHZrjo1.V6SeCDDoOTeLdeZxERQT5XCiDbk9sV8VU5UkwYr1SKZ7Cm2NjHiYWMfDOhJ63qTwgwz+9Yc6hjzqf0dE7gmbv2ftj4KGWLu1+s1iorQiMBq6zFcSmPv8W3OIfHqFSnXNxD.GpUbDUda7DlbpIyx8VfxcEhOC2iI8FOaLtzLvHb38KAFynW9.7ACGR8jk.bY7g+4eg3RV5l1n0xbr.cpIQzMqWECKkSh7uvkArQwzHRLcfnW.Y55Ijvn.5I.DeY8yCDdWzm88zaFkGoQvtpQrt2XBmSCRVDxfUtyFEm2ZB1Y53rJ9fqjwDmGRe5SDSjL9ntoAx.i2QSB6C4P8n6kY4f9rVRwWoaaqZq.QeJ2OswOBexD5nZakIzIWXIUG5Hp7RQ7EoFkreCaasaQRpCvYCuBcJMNQE1.DP1a.+gdUPf3REkEKKfJcSBYzGPXA5sV5P5IBlFMVvYdJKmdB4ajWEJlnn6z6lxfycy8jJ1XSR.da+i48gImVRBDfXcjvG90iNj3Al8o8HJ9rmgUL+voGMdCuhSQycR4AoBi5ZQLkqNx5Qhg9gzjI5skRS4ExnQDrQBSopgxXrpojmFpogzJZVwKiIQTk2yYgBvzWAmerANCgJJzXcVX6FqycELVFf4I3hEnJN9H.GwzMJkNaySo7aQ6KWdJpSAkjkFjS8ztIo1HUhomhEIdPkip.NTgEWI4Ioorl.mzSQHiyBEWVdKP6cY7S04dwJmRTWxUYsWA6zB5nujFk4Fgcf1JKwifBl7ofCs4LQ2skUuJyZU+c40P1mMhSBt1pq75CnWkWTv9rjHf7b2IPN.MYTkdf1ZHBIE9bmzzG4EOT0ZTQRJilpEPJsjBROE2I4TkTuR7.wYFNEUN.tQTD3UXHdVtEUl+s4U9NZCLcBV4tdZ4NmSqUTL8z46BrZ4h9briMHV8wwcGaGmVNFp343l4R2xsocyssaYnvW.Krisc0I2+B5kZasd.MZryN1tMa0nwltau01My3qJC.F.wdCDoJDBidCbhpfn4H1mNjLIPVfoFMxvzlM1Z6FMa1D8pIRATWXwcflmAz4tFE8zT0W+DUfNpxzemCkVAplTReGVTcTduwjD5bLd+d7Qh3PR.nY+dTHwJvDOh9NPIjiafBOq+OPc12vcycfav17ZmP46o4EWCgxF5Vu1JyM51fA3UWdcaGDT4BMFXiLp5Ep7CBDOGR63WgVdQYSVja5XVOLVK743uhD66AAk9cII.pyJL8iK6utVv0JQsVQEKlovSMVlkxW6gtrQHefS8eUtQTEHtV9SGnqkr.noXr7hglnqqfKxqWqDdmPg4OZjxgrryx8WJcZFs+L2d6MIAXfT41gjAmd8KL2OTHjigRdq9.RcZeucvo04IDNDlq7n4QSj5VV3PyW8BgBIWYh7NZViTaSRAcU4vULL2N0B53Ix6MU9sIztL+dBvHC19Wk7WnwB0XePt3fg20pZuq+.9KCDmWPy.gA4U1l5l8GyDWuPd8xAL+me7+b++7iW+ojV9t4McKud3xu285g20GE4423jI4WKhpmogIF+5CONi.E9UIvtcbsKKRDPTENVqrxnB4q1V4fzoz+p8+t82QdCcHDrlkepXkdMcDnRydFPCiD8mx8L8EmCo0KZ+ZgH5.NALB9lKRZAIGObXBUVYYfkcfPmbaO08dME1YDGpCW+hrl8qoSy2.ojppRoRyEa8Wwsb2.9L7yTeuydvWad78S62lGEy4s9UoliSpxQn3HW4R7d36KpQYgi26on7m8UPq8a5WA8AI2ndw0UD+fnvPhWr3LO8ilphpVMsGvHvSug9igB+f10q9OoPWyAjH5LOupK0MlXiEchatnSzcQmXyEchsVzIt0hNwsu8IppSH6V6p3TDpauCzz6VE4VfJ99If8wJvB
            

            Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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            • ustkU
              ustk @ustk
              last edited by

              @Christoph-Hart Nothing that I can test make it work, using develop branch. (note that it crashes with develop when a scriptFX is present in the tree)

              A macro or a flag I missed perhaps?

              Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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              • resonantR
                resonant @ustk
                last edited by

                @ustk said in Matrix modulation connection is broken in exported plugin:

                @Christoph-Hart Are you exporting an FX or INSTRUMENT?

                I have the same issue on the exported fx plugin and reported a while ago: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/13977/modulation-matrix-fx-plugin-crashes-in-daw?_=1777946560667

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                • ustkU
                  ustk @Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  @Christoph-Hart Another strange behaviour, I am currently trying with AU export, which is working aside of the current problem we are trying to solve. I guess it's related to MacOS (me) vs Windows (you?)
                  But that same snippet exported as VST3, and ableton live says:

                  Screenshot 2026-05-05 at 15.22.24.png

                  Screenshot 2026-05-05 at 15.19.39.png

                  Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                  • David HealeyD
                    David Healey @ustk
                    last edited by

                    @ustk Could all your problems be related to this juce 8 thing?

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                    • ustkU
                      ustk @David Healey
                      last edited by

                      @David-Healey Perhaps... But I am JUCE 6... Or schizophrenic... 🤷♂

                      Screenshot 2026-05-05 at 15.33.51.png

                      Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                      • David HealeyD
                        David Healey @ustk
                        last edited by

                        @ustk Why is xcode referencing 8.0.3

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                        • ustkU
                          ustk @David Healey
                          last edited by

                          @David-Healey To this day I have no answer for this...

                          Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                          • David HealeyD
                            David Healey @ustk
                            last edited by

                            @ustk Definitely only got one copy of the source?

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                            • ustkU
                              ustk @David Healey
                              last edited by

                              @David-Healey yes, always had (custom branches but one folder/repo)
                              Also I just re-aligned develop origin onto upstream to be sure (I had some merge commits because of past manual fork syncing) but no changes regarding the issue and the VST3 crash.

                              Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                              • ustkU
                                ustk @David Healey
                                last edited by

                                @David-Healey said in Matrix modulation connection is broken in exported plugin:

                                @ustk Why is xcode referencing 8.0.3

                                After analysing everything, AI confirmed Hise is built and running on Juce 6, and it says:

                                The assertion you hit is most likely thrown by the JUCE-8 plugin's code (in the v8.0.3 message thread), not by HISE's JUCE 6.

                                Since I am debugging using pluginval which is built on Juce8, that's 99% the origin of XCode reporting Juce8 message thread

                                Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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