Builder InterfaceTypes

[David Healey]

@Lindon
Shouldn't the chain index be Midi rather than Direct?

[Lindon]

@David-Healey yep as you see above - meanwhile where is all this documentation hidden?

[David Healey]

@Lindon Only doc I'm aware of: https://docs.hise.audio/scripting/scripting-api/builder/index.html

And the auto-complete, and this thread.

[Lindon]

@David-Healey so how did you know this?

@Lindon
Shouldn't the chain index be Midi rather than Direct?

[David Healey]

@Lindon I posted it higher up in this thread when you asked a related question

Now how did Dave of the past know this... according to my previous post it's in the auto complete.

[David Healey]

@Lindon Do you find the HISE crashes often when using the builder? I stopped using it because I was getting crashes with almost every compile.

[Lindon]

@David-Healey not at the moment...seems to work OK

[David Healey]

@Lindon I'm connecting to a lot of external scripts, that might be the issue

[Lindon]

@David-Healey yeah maybe , meanwhile the feckinn autocomplete is a pile of doggy do...

[David Healey]

@Lindon said in Builder InterfaceTypes:

autocomplete is a pile of doggy do...

What's it done?

[Lindon]

@David-Healey it works sometimes and the on others fails completely - only showing me the list of variables I'm using in my script.... its really really crap.

[David Healey]

@Lindon I find if you add a new object the autocomplete won't show anything relevant to it until you hit compile.

[Lindon]

@David-Healey yeah that I know, but this is a the same builder object oi have been using to build everything else with.....

[Lindon]

@Lindon ok here I am AGAIN, 3 times in one day....

So does anyone know the correct Chain Index for the SampleStart modulation , not in the documentation(duh) and not showing up in the auto complete....

[David Healey]

@Lindon I don't see one

There isn't one for group xf, mix modulation, or some others either.

I wonder if this is what Direct is for.

[Lindon]

@David-Healey yeah - Im begingng to think this Builder stuff is a bit pointless - if its not all there then its not saving anything in the end.

[Christoph Hart]

@Lindon you can always lookup the chain index by inspecting the XML:

<Processor Type="StreamingSampler" ID="Sampler" Bypassed="0" Gain="1.0"
           Balance="0.0" VoiceLimit="256.0" KillFadeTime="20.0" IconColour="0"
           PreloadSize="8192.0" BufferSize="4096.0" VoiceAmount="256.0"
           SamplerRepeatMode="3.0" RRGroupAmount="1.0" PitchTracking="1.0"
           OneShot="0.0" CrossfadeGroups="0.0" Purged="0.0" Reversed="0.0"
           NumChannels="1" UseStaticMatrix="0.0" LowPassEnvelopeOrder="0.0"
           Group0Table="" Group1Table="" Group2Table="" Group3Table="" Group4Table=""
           Group5Table="" Group6Table="" Group7Table="" SampleMapID="">
  <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="1" Solo="0" MapPanelShown="1" BigSampleMap="1"
                GainModulationShown="1"/>
  <ChildProcessors>
    <Processor Type="MidiProcessorChain" ID="Midi Processor" Bypassed="0">
      <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
      <ChildProcessors/>
    </Processor>
    <Processor Type="ModulatorChain" ID="GainModulation" Bypassed="0" Intensity="1.0">
      <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
      <ChildProcessors>
        <Processor Type="SimpleEnvelope" ID="DefaultEnvelope" Bypassed="0" Monophonic="0.0"
                   Retrigger="1.0" Intensity="1.0" Attack="5.0" Release="10.0" LinearMode="1.0">
          <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="1" Solo="0"/>
          <ChildProcessors>
            <Processor Type="ModulatorChain" ID="Attack Time Modulation" Bypassed="0"
                       Intensity="1.0">
              <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
              <ChildProcessors/>
            </Processor>
          </ChildProcessors>
        </Processor>
      </ChildProcessors>
    </Processor>
    <Processor Type="ModulatorChain" ID="PitchModulation" Bypassed="0" Intensity="0.0">
      <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
      <ChildProcessors/>
    </Processor>
    <Processor Type="EffectChain" ID="FX" Bypassed="0">
      <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
      <ChildProcessors/>
    </Processor>
    <Processor Type="ModulatorChain" ID="Sample Start" Bypassed="0" Intensity="1.0">
      <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
      <ChildProcessors/>
    </Processor>
    <Processor Type="ModulatorChain" ID="Group Fade" Bypassed="0" Intensity="1.0">
      <EditorStates BodyShown="1" Visible="0" Solo="0"/>
      <ChildProcessors/>
    </Processor>
  </ChildProcessors>
  <RoutingMatrix NumSourceChannels="2" Channel0="0" Send0="-1" Channel1="1" Send1="-1"/>
  <channels>
    <channelData enabled="1" level="0.0" suffix=""/>
  </channels>
</Processor>

SampleStart => 4th child processor => 4.

const var b = Synth.createBuilder();

const var sampler = b.create(b.SoundGenerators.StreamingSampler, "Sampler", 0, -1);
const var SAMPLE_START_MOD_INDEX = 4;

b.create(b.Modulators.Velocity, "VeloSampleStart", sampler, SAMPLE_START_MOD_INDEX);
b.flush();

Im begingng to think this Builder stuff is a bit pointless - if its not all there then its not saving anything in the end.

I would say 99% of the functionality is there - I'm building the full Triaz module tree with the builder including hardcoded FX modules, loading custom script processors, etc. It's just that the current docs are a bit sparse and you need to know secret tricks like this one but that is solved with the glory of the new upcoming docs.