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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @DanH
      last edited by

      @DanH if you assign a modulation slot to a network parameter and then use the extra mod for this, then you can use the network parameter as value parameter? This is how it's supposed to be used and compiled anyway.

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      • DanHD
        DanH @Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart Ah ok, this does actually work in this latest commit 😆 Didn't before, all good, bravo 👏 😆

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        • DanHD
          DanH @DanH
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart However it doesn't look like LFOs assigned to a parameter are having an effect yet....

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          • ustkU
            ustk @DanH
            last edited by ustk

            @DanH In this case I think the parameter should just be a normal parameter without ExternalModulation
            The way I understand it, a scriptnode parameter that has ExternalModulation set shouldn't be connected with a cable.
            Just set the target for the corresponding UI knob

            @Christoph-Hart if I'm right then the connector (and any previous cable) should be removed or disabled and greyed out.

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            • ustkU
              ustk @Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              @Christoph-Hart For the delete button, I can't seem to actually set a background color like I do with other elements.
              background and background-color are both setting the icon color (be it the original one or a custom icon in .delete-button::before)

              Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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              • ustkU
                ustk @ustk
                last edited by ustk

                Why do I see both the controls that have amatrixTargetId and the actual Matrix Modulators (with the _MM suffix) in the drop down?

                Should they be named the same not to appears as duplicates?

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                • ustkU
                  ustk @Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  @Christoph-Hart Bump bump

                  What should we do with this?
                  Is it on your side or is there a specific procedure not to show the Matrix Modulators in the list?

                  Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @ustk
                    last edited by

                    The matrixTargetId is the ID of the modulator unless you explicitly change it

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                    • ustkU
                      ustk @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      @Christoph-Hart oh ok so if I use the same id it will appear only once?

                      Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @ustk
                        last edited by

                        yes, that's the idea.

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                        • ustkU
                          ustk @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @Christoph-Hart Got a weird one...
                          Changing the target from the dropdown, the modulation stays on the previous target.
                          The dragger appears on the new one but the modulation is still heard on the first target...

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk @Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart So in the end, removing a connection from:

                            • Double click on the dragger -> works
                            • Click the delete button in the matrix -> works
                            • Select "No Connection" or another target from the dropdown -> doesn't work

                            Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                            • Oli UllmannO
                              Oli Ullmann @ustk
                              last edited by

                              @ustk
                              @Christoph-Hart
                              An addition to this:
                              This only happens if a MatrixModulator is used for the parameter. If only the matrixTargetId is used for modulation for the parameter, the problem does not occur.

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                              • ustkU
                                ustk @Oli Ullmann
                                last edited by

                                @Oli-Ullmann Exact, that's why I didn't see the problem before (aka in the 8th post above this one where I didn't have the issue yet) because I had different names.

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                                • DanHD
                                  DanH @ustk
                                  last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart setting matrixHandler.setCurrentlySelectedSource("LFO 1"); does not create the modulation draggers above connected ui components / knobs. It does everything else in matrixHandler.setSourceSelectionCallback(function(source) that I've set. Is there a way to force the selection to draw the draggers?

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                                  • DanHD
                                    DanH @DanH
                                    last edited by

                                    @DanH @Christoph-Hart Ah so the draggers weren't ready to be drawn yet, so I've had to use a couple of delayed calls to make them appear after they're ready to be drawn for both compiling and launching the project first time:

                                    matrixHandler.setCurrentlySelectedSource("LFO 1");
                                    
                                    // Force trigger the broadcaster after a short delay
                                    Content.callAfterDelay(50, function() {
                                        // Try to manually trigger what normally happens on click
                                        matrixHandler.setCurrentlySelectedSource(""); // Clear
                                        matrixHandler.setCurrentlySelectedSource("LFO 1"); // Set again
                                    });
                                    
                                    Engine.createTimerObject().startTimer(1000);
                                    Engine.createTimerObject().setTimerCallback(function() {
                                        matrixHandler.setCurrentlySelectedSource("LFO 1");
                                        Console.print("Delayed init complete");
                                        this.stopTimer();
                                    });
                                    

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                                    • Christoph HartC
                                      Christoph Hart @DanH
                                      last edited by

                                      @DanH wow that looks hacky. I think the reason is that at the time the script's onInit is executed, the actual UI components of your interface don't exist, so they don't get the notification to show the draggers when they are created. The proper solution would be to correctly initialise the "dragger state" when creating the UI components - there's already a system in place for that because the hise::LambdaBroadcaster<T> class which is used for communicating the exclusive source has the option of initialising new listeners directly with the current state.

                                      I'll try later whether the AI can oneshot-fix this with my assessment and our new workflow. If you want you can create a github issue from this, then I can also test the workflow as it is intended to be.

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                                      • DanHD
                                        DanH @Christoph Hart
                                        last edited by

                                        @Christoph-Hart done 🙏

                                        https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/issues/883

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart @DanH
                                          last edited by

                                          @DanH yup, one shot indeed....

                                          https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/pull/884

                                          I couldn't reproduce your bug as this requires a lot of UI components to hit that scenario, but if you checkout the branch with the fix and confirm that it works, then I'll merge it into develop.

                                          Aside from the concrete bug that we solved: with the new workflow setup correctly and an AI agent you'll be able to solve that completely on your own - it analysed the bug correctly, made a risk assessment that correctly came to the conclusion that this is a non-breaking change / fix and then applied the fix exactly as I would have done it. It also automatically would have created this PR with the summary so that I can do a quick review and merge that with a single click. Scary times.

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                                          • DanHD
                                            DanH @Christoph Hart
                                            last edited by

                                            @Christoph-Hart Thanks! I'm in a more manual mode tackling a couple of other issues right now which I'll post if and when successful, but a one shot option would certainly have made my morning go a lot smoother hahah!

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