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      YOKAN @David Healey
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      @David-Healey BPM stands for Beats Per Minute. It measures a song's tempo by counting the number of beats in one minute.

      @David-Healey said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

      You can make installers. You can manage licenses. And HISE has a built in sample installer.

      Is there a way to customise Hise "pop-up" for better GUI design, UX is important, and sometimes I can see mistake on Hise small steps view.

      @David-Healey said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

      Absolutely

      Great !

      I know you make many helpful videos, and I would like to thank you for that, also ask if you works sometimes on plugins projects.
      I need to build an MVP for this virtual drums plugin, this is a minimum functionality version to test the market.

      I just need some helps to manage licenses.
      I don't know how to do it the best way.
      ILok or distant server connection or local token or both ?

      I know web development, but I'm beginner in the plugin world.
      I'm French sorry for my ugly English !

      Please let me know

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        David Healey @YOKAN
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        @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

        BPM stands for Beats Per Minute. It measures a song's tempo by counting the number of beats in one minute.

        Sorry I meant, what BPM do you consider to be extreme.

        @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

        Is there a way to customise Hise "pop-up" for better GUI design, UX is important, and sometimes I can see mistake on Hise small steps view.

        You can style the popup with look and feel, or you can create your own sample installer from scratch within HISE.

        @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

        also ask if you works sometimes on plugins projects.

        Only my own these days

        @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

        I just need some helps to manage licenses.
        I don't know how to do it the best way.

        It depends on your needs but probably the simplest DRM system to use with HISE is HISE activate (I've never used it so can't tell you how it works) - https://activate.hise.dev/

        Free HISE Bootcamp Full Course for beginners.
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        My Patreon - HISE tutorials

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          YOKAN @David Healey
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          @David-Healey sorry, I mean 260–280 BPM blast beats or extreme double bass drumming. Kind of Morbid Angel, Krisiun, Nile, Behemoth, Cryptopsy, Origin, Napalm Death, Nasum, Pig Destroyer, Brutal Truth, Meshuggah, Gojira.... metal in genral... the plugin must be able to stay stable.

          Is it possible to use 96000hz samples for the studio quality ?

          @David-Healey said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

          HISE activate

          Ok I will use it !

          Thanks a lot for all David.

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            David Healey @YOKAN
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            @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

            Is it possible to use 96000hz samples for the studio quality ?

            Yes

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              YOKAN @David Healey
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              @David-Healey I can feel a slight tempo movement at high BPM, maybe there is something to do to fix this ?
              I feel it on VST3 version withing LUNA UAD but Less on Protools.

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                David Healey @YOKAN
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                @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

                I feel it

                What does that mean?

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                  YOKAN @David Healey
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                  @David-Healey said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

                  What does that mean?

                  I have build a single kick sample midi virtual instrument to test it on high BPM, and sometimes, I feel little slowdown, it's discrete but enough to be a problem for a professional plugin.
                  Maybe it's just a feeling, My computer is a professional one with enough power to run many plugins in realtime, so I don't know what to think or how to fix
                  .

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                    David Healey @YOKAN
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                    @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

                    Maybe it's just a feeling

                    Do you have a way to measure it?

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                      griffinboy @YOKAN
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                      @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

                      Is it possible to use 96000hz samples for the studio quality ?

                      If you're chasing the highest quality possible, be aware that the sampler built into Hise doesn't have perfect sample-interpolation or antialising.
                      This will only matter if you intend to do extreme repitching of your samples. Some really high level producers are picky about this, and I only mention it because transients can be slightly smeared when you repitch sounds using an imperfect sampler.

                      Hise can be modded with third party dsp though. You can always swap out and upgrade the sampler later on if you need higher specs. It sounds to me like Hise will work fine as your framework.

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                        Lindon @YOKAN
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                        @YOKAN said in Questions about Profesionnal Virtual Drums for metal with Hise:

                        I just need some helps to manage licenses.
                        I don't know how to do it the best way.
                        ILok or distant server connection or local token or both ?

                        Right well....

                        iLok - you want to avoid at the start - if you want to go this path it will require some custom C++, and frankly for the number of users you would lose because you are using iLok its prob. not worth it.

                        Server Connection - by this I think you mean HiseActivate, which I use a fair bit - but again this is non-trivial (especially for a beginner) HiseScript code... you can of course build your own server-side system with its own API....

                        Local Token - well this is "simplest" and you will likely want to use the RSA key-pair method - again I've done a few for people as well as myself - I can license you the code if you want which includes a key generator.... itself written in HISE.

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                          YOKAN @griffinboy
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                          @griffinboy thanks for your precious details. Normally I will not allow to pitch samples.
                          This Plug-in will come with an already mixed drumkit.
                          The main idea is to make a easy production weapon.
                          One drumkit only.
                          So I hope it should be OK.

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                            YOKAN @Lindon
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                            @Lindon OK I see, you are right, I have to keep things easy for now.

                            One licensing process I love is the the soothe 2.
                            I don't know how to reproduce.

                            It's pretty simple. There two choices possible :

                            • User can pay full license directly for ever.
                              Or
                            • User can rent-to-own where payments contribute to the final price. You pay monthly until the total is reached.

                            The idea is to make the Plug-in affordable. As a web developer I already have some servers and databases. So I don't really know what to do first.
                            Maybe I will try hise subscriptions and see.

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                              griffinboy @YOKAN
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                              @YOKAN

                              You will likely be fine in that case.
                              There will be slight pitch shifting when people use the plugin with a different project sample rate to your samples.
                              But it will be slight and you won't lose much.

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                                YOKAN @griffinboy
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                                @griffinboy OK, you're right, I will consider this aspect.
                                Thanks for all.

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