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    • DanHD
      DanH @DanH
      last edited by

      A suggestion: would it make sense to switch the mouse cursor to up / down arrows when hovering on a modulation dragger?

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      • DanHD
        DanH @DanH
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart so is it not possible to have a monophonic MatrixModule? Something we could use at the container level in it's fx chain? If we can have global time variant modulators I don't see why we can't have a Matrixmod...

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        • Oli UllmannO
          Oli Ullmann @DanH
          last edited by

          @DanH
          Christoph told me in this thread that the modulation is monophonic if you only use the “matrixTargetId” from the Properties Editor and don't use a matrixModulatorModule. Maybe that's what you want.

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          @Christoph-Hart @Orvillain Thanks, guys, that's very interesting and helpfu! :-)

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart @DanH
            last edited by

            @DanH the problem is that containers also don‘t split up the buffer for midi messages and process them so this would be a little too much overhead for all projects to change this, but I‘ll see what I can do.

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            • DanHD
              DanH @Oli Ullmann
              last edited by

              @Oli-Ullmann yup but also want sample accurate modulation.

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              • DanHD
                DanH @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart awesome thank you 🤗

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                • DanHD
                  DanH @Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                  @DanH the problem is that containers also don‘t split up the buffer for midi messages and process them so this would be a little too much overhead for all projects to change this, but I‘ll see what I can do.

                  Did this get anywhere in the end?

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                  • DanHD
                    DanH @DanH
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart quick question about modulation ranges: let's say I have a hardcoded synth with a pitch knob of +/- 24 but on my UI I have a pitch knob to control it of only +/- 12.... If I connect a modulator which range is it going to be using?

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart @DanH
                      last edited by

                      @DanH you set the input / output ranges of the matrix modulator to match the pitch modulation range - the knob on your UI must exactly match the input range, and the output range must be the correct range representing the input range in the modulation domain.

                      There are two presets for +-12 and +-24 semitones that you can directly use.

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                      • DanHD
                        DanH @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        @Christoph-Hart cool, very straightforward :)

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                        • DanHD
                          DanH @DanH
                          last edited by

                          @Christoph-Hart I've recently had a few seemingly random crashes of Hise. Just moving my mouse and boom... Seems it could be something to do with mouse hover and the new mod system? Or maybe I've messed something up in my configuration. Would you mind looking at the crashed thread?

                          Thread 0 Crashed:: JUCE Message Thread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
                          0   HISE-5                        	       0x104b6e4e4 hise::MatrixIds::Helpers::IntensityTextConverter::IntensityTextConverter(hise::MatrixIds::Helpers::IntensityTextConverter::ConstructData const&) + 80
                          1   HISE-5                        	       0x10497ff64 hise::HiSlider::HoverPopup::rebuild() + 1652
                          2   HISE-5                        	       0x10497f108 hise::HiSlider::showModHoverPopup(bool, bool) + 4380
                          3   HISE-5                        	       0x10497be78 hise::HiSlider::mouseEnter(juce::MouseEvent const&) + 24
                          4   HISE-5                        	       0x105f9522c juce::Component::internalMouseEnter(juce::MouseInputSource, juce::Point<float>, juce::Time) + 280
                          5   HISE-5                        	       0x105f5a438 juce::MouseInputSourceInternal::setComponentUnderMouse(juce::Component*, juce::Point<float>, juce::Time) + 684
                          6   HISE-5                        	       0x105f597a0 juce::MouseInputSourceInternal::setScreenPos(juce::Point<float>, juce::Time, bool) + 108
                          7   HISE-5                        	       0x105f84834 juce::JuceNSViewClass::mouseMoved(objc_object*, objc_selector*, NSEvent*) + 216
                          8   AppKit                        	       0x197152098 -[NSTrackingArea mouseMoved:] + 116
                          9   AppKit                        	       0x1977d7bcc -[_NSTrackingAreaAKManager _mouseMoved:] + 440
                          10  AppKit                        	       0x197b06220 _routeMouseMovedEvent + 224
                          11  AppKit                        	       0x197067d20 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 556
                          12  AppKit                        	       0x19706792c -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 288
                          13  AppKit                        	       0x1978df780 routeMouseMovedEvent + 148
                          14  AppKit                        	       0x1978def5c -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 1192
                          15  AppKit                        	       0x1974de4a4 -[NSApplication _handleEvent:] + 60
                          16  AppKit                        	       0x196f34c8c -[NSApplication run] + 520
                          17  HISE-5                        	       0x10472a5a8 main + 296
                          18  dyld                          	       0x192e66b4c start + 6000
                          

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                          • OrvillainO
                            Orvillain
                            last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart

                            Does the ModulationMatrixController use the FloatingTile fontSize property???

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                              last edited by

                              @Orvillain nope

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                              • OrvillainO
                                Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart

                                I'm trying to do this:

                                inline function setupModulationControlPanelLAF(numDraggers)
                                    {
                                        Console.print("rescaling triggers the setupModulationControlPanelLAF, and UI_SCALE is: " + SharedData.UI_SCALE);
                                        local wPct = 100.0 / numDraggers;
                                        local fontPx = Math.round(12 * SharedData.UI_SCALE);
                                        Console.print("fontpx is: " + fontPx);
                                        local laf = Content.createLocalLookAndFeel();
                                        laf.setInlineStyleSheet("
                                            
                                        #controller
                                        {
                                            display:flex;
                                            flex-wrap:nowrap;
                                            align-items:center;
                                            width:100%;
                                            padding:0;
                                            gap: 2px;
                                            border-radius:0;
                                            background:#333;
                                            overflow:hidden;
                                        }
                                        
                                        .control-button
                                        {
                                            display:none;
                                        }
                                
                                        .dragger
                                        {
                                            display:block;
                                            flex:0 0 " + wPct + "%;
                                            width:" + wPct + "%;
                                            height:100%;
                                            min-width:0;
                                            box-sizing:border-box;
                                            white-space:nowrap;
                                            overflow:hidden;
                                            text-overflow:ellipsis;
                                            text-align:center;
                                            background-color:rgba(76, 76, 76, 1);
                                            opacity: 0.8;
                                            font-size:" + fontPx + "px;
                                        }
                                
                                        .dragger::before
                                        {
                                            content: '';	
                                            background-color: white;
                                            background-image: var(--dragPath);
                                            width: 24px;
                                            margin: 2px;
                                        }
                                
                                        .dragger:checked
                                        {
                                            background-color:rgba(255, 0, 0, 1);
                                            opacity: 1.0;
                                        }
                                
                                        ");
                                
                                        local tile = Content.getComponent("ft_modcontroller");
                                        tile.setLocalLookAndFeel(laf);
                                    }
                                

                                This function is called at init, but is also called when I rescale my UI (which is all code that definitely works) ... but my font doesn't resize.

                                The flex and width of the draggers does seem to update. So I think I'm doing the right technique???

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                                • OrvillainO
                                  Orvillain
                                  last edited by

                                  Or maybe I'm better off making custom panels with callbacks, and doing all of the scaling stuff I want to do inside regular LAF, rather than css ??

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                                  • OrvillainO
                                    Orvillain @Orvillain
                                    last edited by

                                    @Orvillain I solved my issue by making my font size a percentage of the dragger, but it was a bit weird. Everything I tried simply would not update the font size. Even doing a setStylePropertyblahblahblah call on the LAF object didn't work.

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                                    • Christoph HartC
                                      Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                                      last edited by

                                      @Orvillain wait, how do you rescale your UI? Settings.setZoomFactor() should scale all fonts correctly.

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                                      • OrvillainO
                                        Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                                        last edited by Orvillain

                                        @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                                        @Orvillain wait, how do you rescale your UI? Settings.setZoomFactor() should scale all fonts correctly.

                                        No I'm not doing that. I have a custom scaling namespace that does a bunch of math, but ultimately what it does is update the properties of any UI widge - so x, y, w, h, fontSize, etc etc.

                                        This kind of thing:

                                            inline function rescaleAll()
                                            {
                                                // Order of operations:
                                                // Resize interface
                                                // Re-apply panel bounds
                                                // Re-apply control bounds
                                                // Re-apply control style props (font, radii, etc.)
                                                // Reposition zoom handle
                                        
                                                // Resize the window
                                                Content.makeFrontInterface(SharedData.getScaledWidth(), SharedData.getScaledHeight());
                                        
                                                // Panels first (so parents are sized before children)
                                                for (i = 0; i < _layout.length; i++)
                                                    _applyScaledBounds(_layout[i]);
                                        
                                                // Controls: bounds then props
                                                for (i = 0; i < _controls.length; i++)
                                                {
                                                    _applyScaledBounds(_controls[i]);
                                                    _applyScaledProps(_controls[i]);
                                                }
                                        
                                                LogicalZoom.onRescaled();
                                            }
                                        

                                        Effectively, I'm scaling everything manually. Not using the automatic zoom factor way to do it. I don't have a reason other than coder ego!!

                                        And this all works fine, but setting the font-size property in the modulation controller didn't seem to update in any of the ways I tried.

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                                          last edited by

                                          @Orvillain now you have another reason. Also all dialogs / other inbuilt components will not scale correctly like this.

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