Posts made by narrsam

@Lindon Damn! ... I so badly wanted you to be wrong... but ... enough already ... @Christoph-Hart just make it happen svp :)

@Win-Conway said in MIDI FX ?:

@d-healey VST3 has nothing to do with it, most MIDI VST are VST2, so must just be a HISE issue.

I agree, a VST can certainly provide MIDI outputs, it's the fact that frameworks like JUCE or HISE just don't seem to consider it as a needed feature so it's somehow neglected.

After fiddling around a bit more with JUCE I stand corrected; its seems to me that you can make a VST plugin with it that outputs MIDI, it's just that it's not well documented (there is no example for a "MIDI" VST and just one example of a standalone that outputs MIDI and its broken!).

I think I'm going with JUCE right now although it means that I have to learn C++, a thing I have been avoiding for years :(

I would love to stay within HISE's friendly environment though... please @Christoph-Hart ... make that happen!

@Lindon I up-vote your up-vote of my vote!

Kontakt... ahhh, well... my whole point of investigating Hise is to avoid working with it in the first place!

I know you can generate MIDI events with KSP to be used internally (Hise can do that even better), but I'm not sure you can broadcast them out of Kontakt which is my goal (a free standing MIDI processing VST)
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I don't want to bash the Kontakt thing as it's obviously being used to produce some amazing instruments... but from an amateur developer's point of view -IMHO- the thing is just horrible!

• The interface is so cluttered you need a GPS to find your way inside it
• Not so very well documented
• The scripting language is awful! Cave man era syntax, you have to declare your GUI in the same script as your program's logic, only 5 script slots which tends to make your script a mile long and a nightmare to debug/maintain if you are to do anything descent, and the fact that the slots can't speak to each other unless you use some mambo-jumbo special variables drives me nuts!

(Well... seems like I bashed the thing already :p)

I think Hise is a much smarter design, and although it's still in its infancy, I can see its potentials surpassing Kontakt by leaps.

Well, I tried messing around with the Juce framework to see if I can do it from there, and it turned out to be a hassle over there too. Somebody posted a workaround in the Juce forum that seemed to me over-complicated that it beat's the purpose of using a framework in the first place. Therefor I don't think it's going to be implemented in Hise anytime soon, since Hise is built over Juce.

I'm trying to look around for some kind of a framework that deals specifically with midi to produce a midi insert/plugin that can be used in an fx chain, the only thing I could find is the MFX format used by cakewalk which seems to be old and not supported by modern DAWs.

This looks a bit strange to me as I thought that would be a highly requested functionality!

Any suggestions?

Hi,

Can Hise be used to make MIDI FX VST plugins?

In other words, take MIDI input data> manipulate it > generate MIDI output data to be received by the next plugin in a stack (picturing a DAW fx stack scenario).

I noticed that there is only MIDI-in configuration in Hise's preferences, which suggests that it does not produce any MIDI output.

If this is the case, please add that to the feature requests.

Thanks,
Sam

@Christoph-Hart Does that mean that it wont work for sampler modules?