@d-healey Aha. Ok. that would indeed be an enormous help.Thank you, I will do some testing here.

@d-healey So putting the multi mic thing aside for a second... another way to ask this:

If I set the AHDSR attributes from script for each new note event, are those guaranteed as the env. values for that event even if the env. is changed via script for a subsequent event (bearing in mind there are very tight timings between events... milliseconds)?

@d-healey said in Dynamic or Multimic Envelopes:

The built in multi mic handling is really great (and a huge improvement over KT), just hoping for some more env. control so that the mics work naturally.

Lets say you have an instrument recorded with multiple RR, dynamics, and variations (short lengths for instance). It's really critical to have good control over the envelopes discretely to make them sound natural and user controllable. In my experience you generally need both initial settings and realtime adjustment based on intelligent parsing of the incoming MIDI.

I'm just looking for a way to accomplish that doesn't involve hundreds of Samplers. Maybe hundreds are ok, but from reading forum posts I'm not seeing people doing that a lot.. and managing in the HISE UI feels like a bit of a challenge as well.

Will keep on poking around...

I strongly agree that there should be a little better support for external editors. Similar to @Simon and @oskarsh I have really fought the built in editor when it comes to just getting code written. I seem to gravitate back to the built in when debugging and working in UI.

The auto-autocomplete is also extremely unreliable for me. It feels like it stops working completely pretty often.

Honestly, being able to avoid overwrite-on-compile and watching for script changes / auto compile would be enough for me. The regular JS syntax highlighting in Sublime, Atom, VS Code are all much better for me but could easily be community addressed if someone wanted something more robust.

2 Questions:

1. Is it possible to do dynamic AHDSR per MIDI event without affecting currently playing voices within the same sampler?

2. Is it possible to have discrete AHDSR for each mic in a multimic setup that isn't using separate samplers?

Generally, what is the state of truly dynamic scripted envelopes? I keep running into this issue and can't find a solution besides adding more samplers. That works, but numbers balloon pretty quickly when you have an instrument with (for instance) 10 mics and 16 articulations.

To be fair, this.isn't that much fun in Kontakt either, but 160 groups in Kontakt is no big deal. 160 Samplers seems like a lot. Maybe I'm wrong?

@DabDab @Adam_G

I have no issue compiling my plugin with webview on Mac/PC.

I'm wondering is this related to the specific example you're trying to compile? I have not attempted to compile the example preset browser.

Maybe just try a simpler test with some html/css and a binding?

@clevername27 Thank you.

Just for clarity, in case anyone else is making rookie mistakes like myself. The main issue for me (just using embedded webview) was:

WebView1.set("enableCache", false);

This had to be set to true in builds or you otherwise end up with just a blank webview in your app/plugins. To be fair, this is in the docs.

@Christoph-Hart I was simply trying to load similar to your example code:

const var f = FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.AudioFiles).getParentDirectory().getChildFile("Images/index.html");
 WebView1.set("enableCache", false);
 WebView1.reset();
 WebView1.setIndexFile("Images/index.html");

Working in editor, but blank white screen on all build types (on mac anyway).

Or is that still wrong on my end?

Finding the same thing here using latest development branch. Tried standalone and plugin builds on macOS.

Is this feature still supported?

@aaronventure Glad you found a solution that works for your use case. The enduser would love this feature and would soon be complaining that KT doesn't have it. I think these are the kinds of VI problems that we've gotten accustomed to that really should have better behavior.

Unfortunately, I am trying to find a reliable solution for crosstalk in realtime between a client and host plugins and have been pulling my hair out (ok, there isn't that much left to begin with) over these same OSC behaviors. I've about given up on it, but FWIW @Christoph-Hart I would also request looking into the mentioned behaviors, because they're very unexpected.

Quick question.. is there any way to access the destructor for a plugin/standalone from within HISEscript? Basically, a callback to run a small bit of code when a plugin is uninstantiated or otherwise turned off by the host?

@AndreD Running Sonoma here and here's what works:

• Building HISE itself is fine for me with Xcode 15
• Building my projects does not work for me with Xc15, but does work with Xc14. I keep both on hand.

So overall Sonoma seems workable to me as long as you have Xc14 around.

Very nice @aaronventure ! Thanks for sharing.

@Christoph-Hart Is this possibly still affecting the convolution reverb settings? I'm seeing identical behavior where values are retained but visually not recalled.

Edit - to be more specific, the Wet Level, Dry Level, High Cut, and Damping seem to be the culprits.

@Christoph-Hart Aha... ok, that's more or less what I've been trying (though I'm learning from your optimization here -- nice). Are you suggesting we use this as is, or would you implement into the engine?

@aaronventure said in MIDI Processor Inconsistent/Processing Speed Issue?:

Is there a chance the message object could get an empty property (or 16) where we could store data? Something like Message.getCustom(index) and Message.setCustom(index, value). This would be highly beneficial to any complex project. Kontakt has EVENT_PAR_CUSTOM with 16 value slots and it works really well for passing down event-related data.

Yeah, I agree. I've been on the verge of putting in a feature request for this many times. Usually in these situations I have found it's just been my HISE ignorance, but custom event params are not something I've totally found a replacement for (and would often seem to solve problems elegantly).

@Christoph-Hart Maybe doing something wrong, but this snippet crashes HISE when used with a Table Envelope rather than a velocity mod. It looks like it works but crashes on save of preset (or if you wait long enough)

Is there a reason? I'd post a snippet but the crash won't allow it. All I'm doing is creating a Sine with Table envelope and linking up to the attack table. Insta-crash.

Hope it's me! Any thoughts?

Sorry if I'm being crazy here! Is there not a way to use Synth vol/pitch fades when delaying messages?

Super simple project. This snippet works without the delay but delaying the message removes the fades (regardless of time/ordering as far as I can tell). Also tried creating new events, but no luck there.

Any ideas? Thanks!

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@Christoph-Hart Thanks so much for the quick fix!

I'm having trouble with recent builds of HISE where my assigned values for knobs go missing. The values seem to be stored properly, but visually I can't see what's going on.

Any ideas? Or is this a known issue in development builds?

This is from the latest commit Running in macOS Sonoma on Apple Silicon with a fresh project.