Spending two years learning HISE to release two plug-ins in the same few months the market is FLOODED with AI plug-ins has been a bit disheartening, and I did start to slopcode for a few weeks, but found I was wasting too much time trying to understand/correct the code.

Learning from Davids vids and the forum has been enjoyable in that it is a challenge and feels like progress I am making. My plug-ins are very much based around samples from vintage gear and samples, so still feels HISE like a good option. I also want to have a strong understanding of what I am doing without being reliant on AI so I can continue to offer support and upgrades to customers.

Interested to see where this convo goes, as I do feel uneasy using AI for ethical reasons like environmental harms.

Hope it continues to be enjoyable for you @Christoph-Hart!!

My Plug-Ins if anyone would like to check them out! --> https://partybagplugins.com/

Planning to launch three VST instruments next month… Pretty much at the last user testing/website final touches and marketing content phase.

After that I’m really keen to explore easy to use/accessible plug in concepts. I think HISE provides heaps of potential for that.

Then expansions and a drum loop plug in which is in the experimental phase. (Esp with time stretching)

Excited!

@dannytaurus

Just saw this in the oscillators lib.

EXCEPTION TO THE LGPL LICENSE : As a special exception, you may create a
larger FAUST program which directly or indirectly imports this library
file and still distribute the compiled code generated by the FAUST
compiler, or a modified version of this compiled code, under your own
copyright and license. This EXCEPTION TO THE LGPL LICENSE explicitly
grants you the right to freely choose the license for the resulting
compiled code. In particular the resulting compiled code has no obligation
to be LGPL or GPL. For example you are free to choose a commercial or
closed source license or any other license if you decide so.

@dannytaurus

Dang it!

Thank you for the clarification.

I have read somewhere that you need to get permission and/or pay for the use of brands in your promotional materials.

Does anyone have advice for this?

Would mentioning specific types of equipment be risky? I.e - Juno 106, ReVox A77.

Would saying the virtual instrument was inspired by pieces of equipment like an MPC (without mentioning AKAI) or saying Stratocaster style guitar also be risky?

If you haven't gotten permission or paid the brands, would it be advised to hide/put a piece of tape over the brand name on a piece of equipment, in visual advertisements? I.e tape over the ReVox logo if you had a video of the machine in your promotional material.

I want to be transparent with the quality of equipment used, but also want to avoid any trouble from big brands.

Would love some advice if anyone has encountered this when releasing plug-ins.

Ngā mihi,
Sam

@d-healey

After opening in Xcode and reading through some of the errors it looked like it was to do with samples.

Deleted the samples and the Standalone App opened.

Time to watch the rest of your Hackspace tutorials!

Thanks!

@dannytaurus I managed to write a script (with claude's help) that uses a Cloudflare worker (free tier) and Payhips Webhook API to track purchases.. Which is working now! Great to finally see ROAS. Happy to send that through if you would like to try it. I'm assuming Gumroad will work similarly.

@tobbentm @dannytaurus - Do you find broad targeting works best? Let meta find the buyers? Or do you use manual targeting/suggest targeting, like targeting people who are interested in FL Studio, Audio Brands, D.A.W?

I am having such a crap time figuring this all out. Do you find it takes a while to get sales after starting a campaign? I usually dont see a sale for a few days or none at all.. And I've reacted and turned them off. I am assuming sales pick up after a week or two? I'm wasting a lot of money (it seems)

@tobbentm Interested to know more about MOONBASE. - I am currently using Payhip + HISE Activate. My Payhip page loads quite slowly, so about half of my link clicks result in a landing page view. It seems like this is on Payhips backend, so I definately need to find a different platform for when I can scale.

@David-Healey ahhh! Okay - I’ll probably implement a lock button so the user can opt in/out of the save in preset UI jumping

And a seperate button to close the panel so it doesn’t jump.

Oh… and THEN I’ll need to implement your random value script before release

HISE feels like whack-a-mole sometimes!

@dannytaurus

Thanks for the info!

I’ll probably try make one audio demo for the website in each DAW/OS combination… And then spam the automation etc A heap of work but I’d rather sort out the bugs now.

And then hopefully make some cash to pay some reliable user testers in the future!

@Oli-Ullmann Great suggestion! Works well with NKS presets too!

Spending two years learning HISE to release two plug-ins in the same few months the market is FLOODED with AI plug-ins has been a bit disheartening, and I did start to slopcode for a few weeks, but found I was wasting too much time trying to understand/correct the code.

Learning from Davids vids and the forum has been enjoyable in that it is a challenge and feels like progress I am making. My plug-ins are very much based around samples from vintage gear and samples, so still feels HISE like a good option. I also want to have a strong understanding of what I am doing without being reliant on AI so I can continue to offer support and upgrades to customers.

Interested to see where this convo goes, as I do feel uneasy using AI for ethical reasons like environmental harms.

Hope it continues to be enjoyable for you @Christoph-Hart!!

My Plug-Ins if anyone would like to check them out! --> https://partybagplugins.com/

@Chazrox Have got a Glitch FX and a Granular Pitch Delay. Would be interested in the pitch and varispeed!

7000 is wild! Have you seen any sales from the traffic?

Aprehensive to release my first product due to these reasons. It’s not like devs don’t have backend costs too… Apple dev certificate, hosting etc.

Meta ads are not working for me so I’m going to try this option.

Hope you get some friendly feedback. People are making music with your tools and that’s awesome.

@xsaad It's not really working as well I thought it would! Still missing sales. Will message you if I get it working properly.

@dannytaurus Cool! Thank you! I didn’t think of the education targets.

So your running sales campaigns? Traffic campaigns would get you a lot more traffic. Cost per 1000 impressions are high for sales ads.

Ads look perfect for the niche you’re in!

@dannytaurus I managed to write a script (with claude's help) that uses a Cloudflare worker (free tier) and Payhips Webhook API to track purchases.. Which is working now! Great to finally see ROAS. Happy to send that through if you would like to try it. I'm assuming Gumroad will work similarly.

@tobbentm @dannytaurus - Do you find broad targeting works best? Let meta find the buyers? Or do you use manual targeting/suggest targeting, like targeting people who are interested in FL Studio, Audio Brands, D.A.W?

I am having such a crap time figuring this all out. Do you find it takes a while to get sales after starting a campaign? I usually dont see a sale for a few days or none at all.. And I've reacted and turned them off. I am assuming sales pick up after a week or two? I'm wasting a lot of money (it seems)

@tobbentm Interested to know more about MOONBASE. - I am currently using Payhip + HISE Activate. My Payhip page loads quite slowly, so about half of my link clicks result in a landing page view. It seems like this is on Payhips backend, so I definately need to find a different platform for when I can scale.

How has peoples experience been using meta ads to market their plug-ins?

Do people use sales campaigns or traffic? Interested to know if people have had better experience using sales campaigns vs. traffic campaigns seeing as you can't install VST3 or AU on your phone.

Have people found it hard to track conversions with Pixel? I get a lot of direct website traffic as apposed to Facebook/instagram traffic, so I am assuming people see the ads and then visit the website at a later date, which makes it harder to tell if the ads are working.

Also, did people run engagement ads initially to create awareness around their brand?

Interested to hear peoples experiences as it's a tricky subject and it seems like there are a lot of changes going on with the roll-out of the Andromeda AI.

Needing a windows user tester to double check an installer runs smoothly. Bonus if you have Pro Tools! Flick me a message

Where have people sourced these logos/icons?

Same for the DAW logos. I’m assuming you need to have a disclaimer somewhere too?

Did you need to email someone for permission?

🫡

@David-Healey Oh yes! I did watch that video and have been using the unicode with buttons, but never wrapped my head using it that way.

(Might be easier for newbies just to copy and paste this in!)