Romplur vs Maize Sampler still HISE Rocks
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I took a look at both Maize and Romplur. While these both might be very easy-to-use tools for bundling simple romplers, I suspect they offer that many features like HISE. Coming from Kontakt I can only see HISE as option. Once you get over the hurdles to having it running properly you start get things going.
So to any newbie trying to make a choice: Expect to spend some days for only investigating HISE/JUCE/your IDE. Watch some of David's videos, read the Music Box tutorial and look functions up in the docs section (the autofilling search slot helps a lot). Then its gonna turn into fun!
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Having used all 3 fairly extensively, here are my thoughts on the 3 different pieces of software for what it's worth.
I came from both Romplur & Maize before transitioning to HISE. They are easy to use but you hit issues and/or limitations pretty quickly IMO.
Maize & Romplur are very similar to each other despite the Romplur CEO saying otherwise.Romplur has a huge issue if you want to use real sample mapping for each individual note and will just grind your DAW to a halt if you have even a modest number of presets/banks.
Maize doesn't have that issue at all depsite being the significantly older software.
With both, you are limited to the built in effects and functionality so if you have far reaching or even moderate ambitions you will hit the ceiling fairly quickly.They only really have 2 advantages over HISE and one was mentioned by the OP - that you can export both Windows & Mac format plugins on 1 platform, you don't need to have a Mac to export Mac plugins and so on.
The other advantage is ease of install.
Other than that, I would say HISE wins hands down in every other category.But in fairness to HISE, once you have got your head around the HISE install/build process & how it works, it's not really an issue tbh
After making the move to HISE I would 100% never consider moving back to either of the other 2 and the more I learn with HISE, the more possibilities there are and the more powerful/flexible it becomes.
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you don't need to have a Mac to export Mac plugins and so on.
I just sold my Mac. I'm using VMs all the way now.
Free HISE Bootcamp Full Course for beginners.
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@rzrsharpeprod said in Romplur vs Maize Sampler still HISE Rocks:
Having used all 3 fairly extensively, here are my thoughts on the 3 different pieces of software for what it's worth.
I came from both Romplur & Maize before transitioning to HISE. They are easy to use but you hit issues and/or limitations pretty quickly IMO.
Maize & Romplur are very similar to each other despite the Romplur CEO saying otherwise.Romplur has a huge issue if you want to use real sample mapping for each individual note and will just grind your DAW to a halt if you have even a modest number of presets/banks.
Maize doesn't have that issue at all depsite being the significantly older software.
With both, you are limited to the built in effects and functionality so if you have far reaching or even moderate ambitions you will hit the ceiling fairly quickly.They only really have 2 advantages over HISE and one was mentioned by the OP - that you can export both Windows & Mac format plugins on 1 platform, you don't need to have a Mac to export Mac plugins and so on.
The other advantage is ease of install.
Other than that, I would say HISE wins hands down in every other category.But in fairness to HISE, once you have got your head around the HISE install/build process & how it works, it's not really an issue tbh
After making the move to HISE I would 100% never consider moving back to either of the other 2 and the more I learn with HISE, the more possibilities there are and the more powerful/flexible it becomes.
Same thought as mine. (y)
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@d-healey same for me as I can't really afford to buy a Mac. But the VM solution (and your help) has made it so I don't actually need one.
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@rzrsharpeprod these days, your old PC is your new server
Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd
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@Dan-Korneff I have 5 old mac minis lying around…
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@Christoph-Hart said in Romplur vs Maize Sampler still HISE Rocks:
@Dan-Korneff I have 5 old mac minis lying around…
In my house I have 3 laptops, an Alienware PC & a gaming PC but no Macs...something has gone wrong somewhere
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@Christoph-Hart you can make a High Availability cluster with those boat anchors.
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I simply refuse to use something called "Romplur".
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Today I found out about another feature that makes HISE rock for me:
The decay curve of a HISE modulator is way closer to an ideal logarithmic one than I know it from Kontakt, Battery and many other software instruments. This comes very handy to me as I love to model analog synth drum sounds in digital realm.To anyone looking for details on that:
Battery 4 and Kontakt 5 have a very steep curve, tending to almost linear – which is very different to how a native sound will decay.
HISE has a much finer finer curve, mimicking an almost perfectly logarithmic decay. With only a little imperfection: It breaks if it reaches -59.4 dbFS. See my comparison graphs below.
One thing I was surprised of to learn was that the Decay Curve parameter seems to not really alter the shape significantly. Turning it up to 100% makes it still look logarithmic like on 0% but seems to extend the actual time value. But that's not a problem to me as I rarely ever want a non-logarithmic decay.
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@David-Healey do you know where I can Purchase HISE Templates of Premade proejects.
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@jacintonegro i do not. What did you have in mind?
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There’s a whole reddit thread on ROMPLUR being sketchy and scamming people…..
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Since this post has been revived, I'll just leave a comment about Maize Sampler.
Yes, it's very basic, and yes there are a lot of features missing.
But here's the thing - I've built a full-time income from plugins made in Maize Sampler.
It's not really down to the tools you use. Even with basic tools making basic plugins, you can still build a business if you have [1] good ideas and [2] a good audience.
The reason I moved to HISE is so I can build even better plugins for my audience, but I probably be in the place I'm in without Maize Sampler.
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@David-Healey a simple plugin like this one https://youtu.be/ZJzM4vZOe5U?si=3NdD8vMRnwPaRj8q
Let me know if you know anyone selling templates that could save time programming . money is no object.
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@jacintonegro I don't know of anyone selling things like that. It would be a whole project rather than a template. If money is no object though then you could hire a developer to make whatever you want. Speak to @Lindon
