Rendering a "sequence" in the DAW not working

[Lindon]

Ok so more testing in this one , and clearly I dont understand timers AT ALL...or they are broken badly...

heres a simple snippet that waits for MIDI note 60 then uses a timer to play a quarter note evey 1/2 bar until the MIDI note 60 off...- this works fine in HISE, but as soon as I compile it and run it in Reaper it fails (it just plays the held note...)

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Can anyone else test this is the behaviour they are seeing(hearing) too?

And any pointers about timers would be a great help...

[d.healey]

@Lindon I get the same thing. I didn't bother testing as a plugin, I just built a standalone and the note plays continuously. I'll see if I can find a solution.

[d.healey]

@Lindon I solved it. You're only getting the period in on init but you need to get it in on note. I'm not 100% sure why this is but I can see it would be good practice to get the tempo at the time you need it as it might change after the plugin has initialised.

function onNoteOn()
{
	local myPeriod = Engine.getMilliSecondsForQuarterBeats(1);

	Message.ignoreEvent(true);

	if (Message.getNoteNumber() == 60)
	{
		playMyNote();
		myTimer.startTimer(myPeriod);
	}
}

[Lindon]

@d-healey thankd - slightly odd though - why would setting the time period have any effect on the playback?

[d.healey]

@Lindon

All will be revealed.

const myPeriod = Engine.getMilliSecondsForQuarterBeats(1);

Engine.showMessageBox("time", myPeriod, 0);

Basically the timer never runs.

[Lindon]

@d-healey sadly it still never runs in the compiled VST3... no matter where Im setting the timer....so its still broken.

[d.healey]

@Lindon I shall investigate

[Lindon]

@d-healey

so:

function onNoteOn()
{
	Message.ignoreEvent(true);
	local myP= Engine.getMilliSecondsForQuarterBeats(1);
	
	
	if(Message.getNoteNumber() == 60)
	{
		playMyNote();
		Engine.showMessageBox("time", myP, 0);
		myTimer.startTimer(myP);
		
	}
}

gives this output:

[d.healey]

It's working here. I added a visual indicator so we can see that the timer is running.

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[Lindon]

thanks and so now we get to the ACTUAL problem....

Load this into a track in reaper, and render the track....this is what you get:

So the timer DOES NOT WORK in off-line renders....and this is very very bad because some DAWs(I'm looking at you Logic) are really bad at real-time rendering... and some (I'm looking at you Reaper) do not offer out-of-the-box real-time rendering for tracks....

Can you please go confirm this is correct...(that this is what is happening for you too..)

[d.healey]

@Lindon I get the same result with offline render. Realtime render works as expected though.

[Lindon]

@d-healey thanks -- so yes, same as my results - so this is a BIG problem...

@Christoph-Hart !!!!!!

[d.healey]

@Lindon

so this is a BIG problem...

Yes I think so too. I also tested using a fixed interval of 500ms and the result is the same, so it's not related specifically to the tempo functions but is a problem with the timer in an offline render.

[Lindon]

@d-healey yeah this all started with a plugin I wrote that uses fixed time rendering -in truth there's more than one of them, and they are ALL failing in this way...

[Lindon]

@d-healey -- I'd imagine this breaks your legato scripting badly....

[d.healey]

@Lindon said in Rendering a "sequence" in the DAW not working:

@d-healey -- I'd imagine this breaks your legato scripting badly....

I am testing that right now :) Actually I think the legato will be ok because I'm using the built in fade functions, but the portamento/glide is controlled with timers. I'm also going to double check older versions of my plugins to see if it used to work. If so there is hope :D

[Lindon]

@d-healey fingers crossed here!! -- I'm hopeful, as I seem to recall it working fine at one point...

[d.healey]

@Lindon The mystery deepens. My glide script works.

I can think of two reasons why this might be.

1. I'm using the synth on timer callback rather than a timer object.
2. The glide script is not part of the main interface script.

[Lindon]

@d-healey said in Rendering a "sequence" in the DAW not working:

@Lindon The mystery deepens. My glide script works.

I can think of two reasons why this might be.

1. I'm using the synth on timer callback rather than a timer object.
2. The glide script is not part of the main interface script.

What Synth.onTimer!!!!

[d.healey]

Using the synth timer the offline render works. And now I think about it I seem to recall that timer object callbacks are always deferred (I'll see if I can find a reference for that).

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