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    • FatMitchell
      FatMitchell last edited by

      Hello All,

      After a few requests, I'd love to share my technique for getting wavetable synth functional!

      Best,
      Mitchell

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      • Natan
        Natan @FatMitchell last edited by

        @FatMitchell Thanks Mutchell πŸ‘
        How do Change the WT? With combobox?
        And Do the Graphics show Up On GUI?
        Like waveforms?

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        • orange
          orange @FatMitchell last edited by

          @FatMitchell Very helpful, Thank you!

          develop Branch / XCode 13.1
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          • ulrik
            ulrik @FatMitchell last edited by

            @FatMitchell thank you, that is great to know! πŸ™‚

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            • iamlamprey
              iamlamprey last edited by iamlamprey

              Nice one! Here's a couple of little extra points for people that want to go a bit further with WT:

              WaveEdit can apply normalization/cycling & effects to multiple Waveforms at once using the Effect Editor:

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              You can export the entire table using File -> Save Waves to Folder

              To setup interpolation in HISE, drag all of the Waves onto a single note so it splits at different velocity levels:

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              Then set the High Key to 127 & save/convert like normal.

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              To interpolate/blend between waves, add a Constant Modulator, connect it to Table Index and connect its Intensity to a Slider on the GUI:

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              I've personally had some artifacts blending between different waves, but that might just be the wavetables that I'm using πŸ™‚

              Edit: Just going to quickly add, the reason I was getting lots of artifacts was because I was using wayyy too many cycles/velocities, stick to 2-8 for smooth interpolation between shapes

              Music - Instruments

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              • FatMitchell
                FatMitchell @iamlamprey last edited by

                @iamlamprey epic!!!! Thank you

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                • FatMitchell
                  FatMitchell @Natan last edited by

                  @Natan Waveforms do show up but only when you’re playing the key in my experience

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                  • callybeat
                    callybeat last edited by callybeat

                    wow! 😲 I've been trying to make it work for months, a genius , thanks for this! 😁

                    But I see that my Hise construction is not the same, I stayed on 2.1.0 from March 27, 2021
                    Now I understand why Hise breaks when converting samplemap to wavetable πŸ˜…

                    IBM Netvista A40 PIII 1000 MHz

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                    • DabDab
                      DabDab @FatMitchell last edited by

                      @FatMitchell Thank you for making YT tutorials.

                      Trance Producer and Presets Designer.

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                        Steve Mohican last edited by

                        Will HISE capable of creating a Wavetable synth?

                        Not static, modulated morphing wavetable synths like Serum and others like that.

                        If not yet (stable), please add this support @Christoph-Hart

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                        • Lindon
                          Lindon @Steve Mohican last edited by Lindon

                          @Steve-Mohican said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                          Will HISE capable of creating a Wavetable synth?

                          Not static, modulated morphing wavetable synths like Serum and others like that.

                          If not yet (stable), please add this support @Christoph-Hart

                          alt text

                          err... HISE has this already...you cant add your own wav files, to the compiled running product as wavetables,but you can modulate the wavetable position no problem....

                          HISE Development for hire.
                          www.channelrobot.com

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                            Steve Mohican @Lindon last edited by

                            @Lindon

                            HISE has this already.

                            If it is stable, it is great then. Any tutorial project would be great for this, about wavetable position modulation and creating wavetables.

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                            • Christoph Hart
                              Christoph Hart @Steve Mohican last edited by

                              Any tutorial project would be great for this

                              It's literally the first post in this topic LOL. And the tutorial repo has a wavetable demo:

                              https://github.com/christophhart/hise_tutorial/tree/master/WavetableSynth

                              Wavetable position modulation doesn't need a tutorial: just a a modulator to the table index chain.

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                              • DanH
                                DanH @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart Is there a limit to the amount of indexes / cycles you can import? Hise doesn't seem to like 100+ I don't think. Also the .hwt files get very large too!

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                                • Lindon
                                  Lindon @DanH last edited by

                                  @DanH said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                                  @Christoph-Hart Is there a limit to the amount of indexes / cycles you can import? Hise doesn't seem to like 100+ I don't think. Also the .hwt files get very large too!

                                  start with 3 or 4 and see how effective rhis is... 100 is insane...

                                  HISE Development for hire.
                                  www.channelrobot.com

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                                  • Christoph Hart
                                    Christoph Hart @Lindon last edited by

                                    @Lindon I was using 64 cycles per note and sampled the entire clarinet range chromatically so that is not completely out of touch.

                                    Going beyond 64 tables makes no sense if youβ€˜r intend to modulate the index with MIDI messages in my experience.

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                                      harris rosendahl @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                      @Christoph-Hart said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                                      Going beyond 64 tables makes no sense if youβ€˜r intend to modulate the index with MIDI messages in my experience.

                                      Err, 64 is pretty low for wavetable synthesis. Actually most of the wavetable synths (Serum, Ana, Arturia Pigments...etc.) uses up to 256 frames.

                                      Also apart form that, we can't get a wavetable look like the below with Hise. I think wavetable synthesis should be improved.

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                                      • DanH
                                        DanH @harris rosendahl last edited by

                                        @harris-rosendahl @Christoph-Hart @Lindon yes a point I was going to make was that when I export wavetables I've created within Serum it spits out well over 100 frames, and often 256, even if my wavetable within Serum only consists of a few frames - I guess it's running a process to create a longer table from what I've given it.

                                        Does Serum modulate without MIDI messages?

                                        64 frames should be enough to get some interesting modulations though.

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                                        • Lindon
                                          Lindon @DanH last edited by

                                          well perhaps I dont understand how the wavetable works- but I think we are conflating two things - a"keyframe" (to use an animation term) and an interpolated frame.

                                          HISE Development for hire.
                                          www.channelrobot.com

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                                          • DanH
                                            DanH @Lindon last edited by

                                            @Lindon yeah perhaps Serum uses the frames you put into as 'keyframes' and creates the frames in between.

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