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    • ?
      A Former User
      last edited by A Former User

      Nice one! Here's a couple of little extra points for people that want to go a bit further with WT:

      WaveEdit can apply normalization/cycling & effects to multiple Waveforms at once using the Effect Editor:

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      You can export the entire table using File -> Save Waves to Folder

      To setup interpolation in HISE, drag all of the Waves onto a single note so it splits at different velocity levels:

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      Then set the High Key to 127 & save/convert like normal.

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      To interpolate/blend between waves, add a Constant Modulator, connect it to Table Index and connect its Intensity to a Slider on the GUI:

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      I've personally had some artifacts blending between different waves, but that might just be the wavetables that I'm using :)

      Edit: Just going to quickly add, the reason I was getting lots of artifacts was because I was using wayyy too many cycles/velocities, stick to 2-8 for smooth interpolation between shapes

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      • FatMitchellF
        FatMitchell @A Former User
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        @iamlamprey epic!!!! Thank you

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          FatMitchell @Natan
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          @Natan Waveforms do show up but only when you’re playing the key in my experience

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          • callybeatC
            callybeat
            last edited by callybeat

            wow! :astonished_face: I've been trying to make it work for months, a genius , thanks for this! :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

            But I see that my Hise construction is not the same, I stayed on 2.1.0 from March 27, 2021
            Now I understand why Hise breaks when converting samplemap to wavetable :grinning_face_with_sweat:

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              DabDab @FatMitchell
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              @FatMitchell Thank you for making YT tutorials.

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              • ?
                A Former User
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                Will HISE capable of creating a Wavetable synth?

                Not static, modulated morphing wavetable synths like Serum and others like that.

                If not yet (stable), please add this support @Christoph-Hart

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                  Lindon @A Former User
                  last edited by Lindon

                  @Steve-Mohican said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                  Will HISE capable of creating a Wavetable synth?

                  Not static, modulated morphing wavetable synths like Serum and others like that.

                  If not yet (stable), please add this support @Christoph-Hart

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                  err... HISE has this already...you cant add your own wav files, to the compiled running product as wavetables,but you can modulate the wavetable position no problem....

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                    A Former User @Lindon
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                    @Lindon

                    HISE has this already.

                    If it is stable, it is great then. Any tutorial project would be great for this, about wavetable position modulation and creating wavetables.

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                      Christoph Hart @A Former User
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                      Any tutorial project would be great for this

                      It's literally the first post in this topic LOL. And the tutorial repo has a wavetable demo:

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                      Wavetable position modulation doesn't need a tutorial: just a a modulator to the table index chain.

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                        DanH @Christoph Hart
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                        @Christoph-Hart Is there a limit to the amount of indexes / cycles you can import? Hise doesn't seem to like 100+ I don't think. Also the .hwt files get very large too!

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                          Lindon @DanH
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                          @DanH said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                          @Christoph-Hart Is there a limit to the amount of indexes / cycles you can import? Hise doesn't seem to like 100+ I don't think. Also the .hwt files get very large too!

                          start with 3 or 4 and see how effective rhis is... 100 is insane...

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                            Christoph Hart @Lindon
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                            @Lindon I was using 64 cycles per note and sampled the entire clarinet range chromatically so that is not completely out of touch.

                            Going beyond 64 tables makes no sense if you‘r intend to modulate the index with MIDI messages in my experience.

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                              A Former User @Christoph Hart
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                              @Christoph-Hart said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                              Going beyond 64 tables makes no sense if you‘r intend to modulate the index with MIDI messages in my experience.

                              Err, 64 is pretty low for wavetable synthesis. Actually most of the wavetable synths (Serum, Ana, Arturia Pigments...etc.) uses up to 256 frames.

                              Also apart form that, we can't get a wavetable look like the below with Hise. I think wavetable synthesis should be improved.

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                                DanH @A Former User
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                                @harris-rosendahl @Christoph-Hart @Lindon yes a point I was going to make was that when I export wavetables I've created within Serum it spits out well over 100 frames, and often 256, even if my wavetable within Serum only consists of a few frames - I guess it's running a process to create a longer table from what I've given it.

                                Does Serum modulate without MIDI messages?

                                64 frames should be enough to get some interesting modulations though.

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                                  Lindon @DanH
                                  last edited by

                                  well perhaps I dont understand how the wavetable works- but I think we are conflating two things - a"keyframe" (to use an animation term) and an interpolated frame.

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                                    DanH @Lindon
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                                    @Lindon yeah perhaps Serum uses the frames you put into as 'keyframes' and creates the frames in between.

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                                      Lindon @DanH
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                                      @DanH said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                                      @Lindon yeah perhaps Serum uses the frames you put into as 'keyframes' and creates the frames in between.

                                      • correct...

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                                        DanH @Lindon
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                                        @Lindon they sound lovely though 😆

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                                          Lindon @DanH
                                          last edited by

                                          @DanH -but my understanding is this is also how the wavetable works in HISE...or thats how it seems to work for me.

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                                            Christoph Hart @Lindon
                                            last edited by

                                            @Lindon the wavetable synthesizer is of course interpolating between different wavetables, so I was talking about 64 "keyframes" - the reason I was using 64 instead of 127 was that then I have one interpolated frame between each of the 64 frames which makes the transitions way more smooth.

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