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    • NatanN
      Natan @FatMitchell
      last edited by

      @FatMitchell Thanks Mutchell 👏
      How do Change the WT? With combobox?
      And Do the Graphics show Up On GUI?
      Like waveforms?

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      • orangeO
        orange @FatMitchell
        last edited by

        @FatMitchell Very helpful, Thank you!

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        • ulrikU
          ulrik @FatMitchell
          last edited by

          @FatMitchell thank you, that is great to know! :)

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          • ?
            A Former User
            last edited by A Former User

            Nice one! Here's a couple of little extra points for people that want to go a bit further with WT:

            WaveEdit can apply normalization/cycling & effects to multiple Waveforms at once using the Effect Editor:

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            You can export the entire table using File -> Save Waves to Folder

            To setup interpolation in HISE, drag all of the Waves onto a single note so it splits at different velocity levels:

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            Then set the High Key to 127 & save/convert like normal.

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            To interpolate/blend between waves, add a Constant Modulator, connect it to Table Index and connect its Intensity to a Slider on the GUI:

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            I've personally had some artifacts blending between different waves, but that might just be the wavetables that I'm using :)

            Edit: Just going to quickly add, the reason I was getting lots of artifacts was because I was using wayyy too many cycles/velocities, stick to 2-8 for smooth interpolation between shapes

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            • FatMitchellF
              FatMitchell @A Former User
              last edited by

              @iamlamprey epic!!!! Thank you

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              • FatMitchellF
                FatMitchell @Natan
                last edited by

                @Natan Waveforms do show up but only when you’re playing the key in my experience

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                • callybeatC
                  callybeat
                  last edited by callybeat

                  wow! :astonished_face: I've been trying to make it work for months, a genius , thanks for this! :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                  But I see that my Hise construction is not the same, I stayed on 2.1.0 from March 27, 2021
                  Now I understand why Hise breaks when converting samplemap to wavetable :grinning_face_with_sweat:

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                  • DabDabD
                    DabDab @FatMitchell
                    last edited by

                    @FatMitchell Thank you for making YT tutorials.

                    Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by

                      Will HISE capable of creating a Wavetable synth?

                      Not static, modulated morphing wavetable synths like Serum and others like that.

                      If not yet (stable), please add this support @Christoph-Hart

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @A Former User
                        last edited by Lindon

                        @Steve-Mohican said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                        Will HISE capable of creating a Wavetable synth?

                        Not static, modulated morphing wavetable synths like Serum and others like that.

                        If not yet (stable), please add this support @Christoph-Hart

                        alt text

                        err... HISE has this already...you cant add your own wav files, to the compiled running product as wavetables,but you can modulate the wavetable position no problem....

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                        • ?
                          A Former User @Lindon
                          last edited by

                          @Lindon

                          HISE has this already.

                          If it is stable, it is great then. Any tutorial project would be great for this, about wavetable position modulation and creating wavetables.

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @A Former User
                            last edited by

                            Any tutorial project would be great for this

                            It's literally the first post in this topic LOL. And the tutorial repo has a wavetable demo:

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                            hise_tutorial/WavetableSynth at master · christophhart/hise_tutorial

                            The Tutorial project for HISE. Contribute to christophhart/hise_tutorial development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                            Wavetable position modulation doesn't need a tutorial: just a a modulator to the table index chain.

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                            • DanHD
                              DanH @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              @Christoph-Hart Is there a limit to the amount of indexes / cycles you can import? Hise doesn't seem to like 100+ I don't think. Also the .hwt files get very large too!

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                              • LindonL
                                Lindon @DanH
                                last edited by

                                @DanH said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                                @Christoph-Hart Is there a limit to the amount of indexes / cycles you can import? Hise doesn't seem to like 100+ I don't think. Also the .hwt files get very large too!

                                start with 3 or 4 and see how effective rhis is... 100 is insane...

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                                • Christoph HartC
                                  Christoph Hart @Lindon
                                  last edited by

                                  @Lindon I was using 64 cycles per note and sampled the entire clarinet range chromatically so that is not completely out of touch.

                                  Going beyond 64 tables makes no sense if you‘r intend to modulate the index with MIDI messages in my experience.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @Christoph Hart
                                    last edited by

                                    @Christoph-Hart said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                                    Going beyond 64 tables makes no sense if you‘r intend to modulate the index with MIDI messages in my experience.

                                    Err, 64 is pretty low for wavetable synthesis. Actually most of the wavetable synths (Serum, Ana, Arturia Pigments...etc.) uses up to 256 frames.

                                    Also apart form that, we can't get a wavetable look like the below with Hise. I think wavetable synthesis should be improved.

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                                    • DanHD
                                      DanH @A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      @harris-rosendahl @Christoph-Hart @Lindon yes a point I was going to make was that when I export wavetables I've created within Serum it spits out well over 100 frames, and often 256, even if my wavetable within Serum only consists of a few frames - I guess it's running a process to create a longer table from what I've given it.

                                      Does Serum modulate without MIDI messages?

                                      64 frames should be enough to get some interesting modulations though.

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                                      • LindonL
                                        Lindon @DanH
                                        last edited by

                                        well perhaps I dont understand how the wavetable works- but I think we are conflating two things - a"keyframe" (to use an animation term) and an interpolated frame.

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                                        • DanHD
                                          DanH @Lindon
                                          last edited by

                                          @Lindon yeah perhaps Serum uses the frames you put into as 'keyframes' and creates the frames in between.

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                                          • LindonL
                                            Lindon @DanH
                                            last edited by

                                            @DanH said in Wavetable Synth Tutorial (how I do it):

                                            @Lindon yeah perhaps Serum uses the frames you put into as 'keyframes' and creates the frames in between.

                                            • correct...

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