Global modulators on FX plugins - how?

[tomekslesicki]

I saw it was added a while ago but how do I do that? The global modulators are not available to be inserted into the master FX chain because of the tree structure but I guess theres's an obvious way to approach this?

[Christoph Hart]

https://docs.hise.audio/working-with-hise/settings/project.html#enable-sound-generators-fx

Enable this option then export the FX and it should render the global modulators.

[tomekslesicki]

@christoph-hart Thanks! I actually meant how I assign it to a parameter in the global fx chain because...

[d.healey]

@tomekslesicki Put your global modulator container before the place you want to use it in the chain - I always put mine at the top.

[tomekslesicki]

@d-healey I can't put it on top of the Master Chain, which is what I have to use for the FX plugin.

[d.healey]

@tomekslesicki So this won't work?

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[ulrik]

@d-healey that's not working, try and add a Waveform generator, you'll not get the signal into to effect container, or is there a way to set it up? I have tried but not succeed

[d.healey]

@ulrik said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

try and add a Waveform generator

But does it work as an effect plugin which is what the OP wants?

[d.healey]

@ulrik Works here with a waveform gen

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[ulrik]

@d-healey Oh, I'm so sorry, I was actually right now trying to get it to work in my own project, which is a synth, sorry!

[ulrik]

@d-healey Yes it is !!! I must have gone out to lunch :) with my project, thank you David!

[tomekslesicki]

@d-healey Wait, so for FX plugins, I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

[d.healey]

@tomekslesicki said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

Try it and tell me, I haven't made an fx plugin for a couple of years so can't remember.

[tomekslesicki]

@d-healey nope, it needs to be on the master

[d.healey]

@tomekslesicki In that case there seems to be no point in global modulators being available in FX plugins at all, or am I missing something?

[tomekslesicki]

@d-healey Yeah, it seems like @Christoph-Hart added it as requested but it doesn't bring anything to the table if you can't use the modulators :D

[Christoph Hart]

@tomekslesicki I‘m pretty sure you can use them in an FX plugin (but I have no idea why they don‘t show up in the drop down, might have slipped in at some point).

[tomekslesicki]

@christoph-hart I bet they work but you're right, I can't select them from the drop down so I can't check that ;-)

[Christoph Hart]

@tomekslesicki Yes, I tried to fake it by creating the mod connection in a child sound generator. If you then paste it to the master chain FX, it works, but the next time you load the patch the connection is gone. It's like as if HISE doesn't like cheating :)

I'll take a look now, I'm sure it's a trivial fix - not unlike our eternal friend, the cubase offline export :)

[Christoph Hart]

Alright, please pull, recompile and try now with this snippet:

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