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      BWSounds @DanH last edited by

      @DanH I tried, didn’t work but yea the wavetable synth works pretty well to me.. I created around 1500 waveforms and added them all to my project, no problem.

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      • Christoph Hart
        Christoph Hart last edited by

        Wow I didn't know anybody uses it. Did you use the wavetable converter dialog to create the .hwt files?

        Making the waveform sticky is not so easy unfortunately as it's supposed to display the waveform that is currently being played.

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        • Lindon
          Lindon @BWSounds last edited by

          @BWSounds said in Wavetable waveform view:

          @DanH I tried, didn’t work but yea the wavetable synth works pretty well to me.. I created around 1500 waveforms and added them all to my project, no problem.

          Great! Any clues on how you did this? A quick walk thru on how to create the waveforms and add them to the wavetable synth would be great.

          HISE Development for hire.
          www.channelrobot.com

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          • Matt_SF
            Matt_SF @Lindon last edited by

            @Lindon said in Wavetable waveform view:

            @BWSounds said in Wavetable waveform view:

            @DanH I tried, didn’t work but yea the wavetable synth works pretty well to me.. I created around 1500 waveforms and added them all to my project, no problem.

            Great! Any clues on how you did this? A quick walk thru on how to create the waveforms and add them to the wavetable synth would be great.

            Would also be interested in how you did it : I never managed to use the WT synth 😆

            Develop branch - Build : may 14
            Win10 / Monterrey & Xcode 13

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            • Christoph Hart
              Christoph Hart last edited by Christoph Hart

              @Lindon Create a sample map with your wavetable files and map them like you want (without RR groups so only note number / velocity 2D mapping), then run the wavetable converter dialog to create .hwt files from the sample maps - the velocity will become the modulatable "table index" dimension.

              If you already have wavetable audio files, then the conversion should be pretty straight forward, otherwise it will use a super experimental and hacky FFT resynthesis algorithm that tries to extract a wavetable from consecutive parts of the file.

              An example project with a some "convertable" sample maps can be found here:

              https://github.com/christophhart/hise_tutorial/tree/master/WavetableSynth

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              • DanH
                DanH @Christoph Hart last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart Thanks Christoph, I genuinely thought it was broken 😆

                Into the rabbit hole I goooooooooooo........ 🐰

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                • Christoph Hart
                  Christoph Hart last edited by

                  @DanH said in Wavetable waveform view:

                  I genuinely thought it was broken

                  Well I didn't use it for a long time so I wouldn't be surprised if something is broken in the meantime, but let me know if you run into some issues, as they should be rather easy to fix.

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                  • Lindon
                    Lindon @Christoph Hart last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart said in Wavetable waveform view:

                    @Lindon Create a sample map with your wavetable files and map them like you want (without RR groups so only note number / velocity 2D mapping), then run the wavetable converter dialog to create .hwt files from the sample maps - the velocity will become the modulatable "table index" dimension.

                    If you already have wavetable audio files, then the conversion should be pretty straight forward, otherwise it will use a super experimental and hacky FFT resynthesis algorithm that tries to extract a wavetable from consecutive parts of the file.

                    An example project with a some "convertable" sample maps can be found here:

                    https://github.com/christophhart/hise_tutorial/tree/master/WavetableSynth

                    OK so I:

                    • re-downloaded the entire hise-tutorial-master
                    • opened the Wavetable Synth project
                    • made sure the guitar sample map was loaded
                    • pressed "convert Samplemap to Wavetable bank"

                    -- crashes HISE instantly.

                    HISE Development for hire.
                    www.channelrobot.com

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                    • DanH
                      DanH @Lindon last edited by

                      @Lindon Try again! Worked second time for me

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                      • Lindon
                        Lindon @DanH last edited by

                        @DanH said in Wavetable waveform view:

                        @Lindon Try again! Worked second time for me

                        tried about 5 times,,, crashes every time.

                        HISE Development for hire.
                        www.channelrobot.com

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                        • Christoph Hart
                          Christoph Hart last edited by

                          Hmm, works here too. Don't load a sampler or anything into HISE, just open the converter dialog, does it crash then too?

                          Also you might want to run it in a debugger, this will directly point you to the issue.

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                            BWSounds @Lindon last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart

                            Did you use the wavetable converter dialog to create the .hwt files?

                            Yep, took a while but def. worth it.

                            Making the waveform sticky is not so easy unfortunately as it's supposed to display the waveform that is currently being played.

                            ok, thank you, I have an idea I can try.

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                              BWSounds @Lindon last edited by

                              @Lindon

                              Great! Any clues on how you did this? A quick walk thru on how to create the waveforms and add them to the wavetable synth would be great.

                              I used my mother moog & a few other synths I could get my hands on, wave edit, dune3 and a few other sources.

                              the tricky part for me was saving the waveforms to the "ideal" length... don't know the exact time but about 1/64 of a second.
                              (1 cycle of the waveform) (no need to worry about that in wave edit)

                              I added between 4-9 waveforms per samplemap,
                              and from there HISE does a great job converting the samplemap to wavetable.

                              it create a right and left hwt file, the left one is the one I use.

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                              • Lindon
                                Lindon @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart said in Wavetable waveform view:

                                Hmm, works here too. Don't load a sampler or anything into HISE, just open the converter dialog, does it crash then too?

                                Also you might want to run it in a debugger, this will directly point you to the issue.

                                Clearly I'm doing something wrong - what converter dialog?

                                I opened the Wavetable Synth project - its got a sampler in it already... and a wavetable...

                                I tried running:

                                Tools>Convert samplemap to Wavetable Bank

                                • HISE crashes immediately...

                                I reloaded it, and deleted the sampler

                                Tools>Convert samplemap to Wavetable Bank

                                • HISE crashes immediately...

                                I loaded HISE and DIDNT load the project...(so empty HISE)

                                Tools>Convert samplemap to Wavetable Bank

                                • HISE crashes immediately...

                                HISE Development for hire.
                                www.channelrobot.com

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                                • Christoph Hart
                                  Christoph Hart last edited by

                                  Yes, but can you debug HISE, since it is a super trivial crash but it doesn't do it here, so I need to know where to look.

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                                    UD AUDIO last edited by

                                    Same crash here. I also tried to convert the sample map in the tutorial project without success.

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                                      LinuxVst last edited by LinuxVst

                                      Hi Christoph
                                      here a re My Findings about Wavetables

                                      first the Hise Stand Alone builds were done on a
                                      Mac Pro 3.1 with Mojave 10.14.6 with Xcode 10
                                      and Mac Pro 5.1 with Big Sur 11.2.3 with Xcode 12.5

                                      When we Use Either the Develop or new-layout Branch
                                      we can Export the Wave tables
                                      after we export the wave tables we have to close Hise and re-open
                                      to be able to play the wavetables

                                      Hise Develop Export Wavetables.png

                                      with Develop and new-layout we do not have the Wavetable Preview

                                      Hise Develop no Wavetable Preview.png

                                      When we use the Master Branch to Export wavetables the Hise App Crashes

                                      if i open the project containing the wavetables created with
                                      Develop or new-layout in Hise Master Branch
                                      i am able to get the Wavetable Preview

                                      Hise Master Branch.png

                                      i Found another Difference in Develop & New-layout Branch the LFO Wave has Steps option

                                      Steps Present in Develop.png

                                      but in Master Branch the LFO Wave has no Steps option!

                                      Steps not Available in Master Branch.png

                                      Hope This Helps to Fix Everything!

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                                      • Matt_SF
                                        Matt_SF @BWSounds last edited by

                                        @BWSounds @LinuxVst Hi folks, I'm testing some things with wavetable synths. Everything's working fine but when I build my plugin (or the standalone version), it doesn't produce any sound.

                                        The standalone build asked for the sample file, so I gave it to it but it still doesn't output any sound.

                                        Did you manage to get it to work ?

                                        Develop branch - Build : may 14
                                        Win10 / Monterrey & Xcode 13

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                                        • Matt_SF
                                          Matt_SF @Matt_SF last edited by

                                          @Matt_SF Nevermind, it's just that the wavetable file wasn't been properly installed to the {APP_DATA} folder. Do it manually and everything will work fine.

                                          Develop branch - Build : may 14
                                          Win10 / Monterrey & Xcode 13

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                                          • DanH
                                            DanH @Matt_SF last edited by

                                            @Matt_SF Are there any fun modulations you can do to the wavetables? Like position or warping etc?

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