HISE + PluginDoctor = OP

[ustk]

@iamlamprey Waouw! I'm myself digging into DSP, thanks for your example :)
What I'd like the most is the ability to use Hise as FX in DAWs, not instrument. This would be killer for DSP development because honestly, the hack around importing samples and using internal generators is absolutely not practical... especially since Hise opens more and more to DSP!

[A Former User]

@ustk Do you mean make FX Plugins with HISE? Or run HISE in a sort of realtime development tool inside a DAW?

You can already do the former (export as FX Plugin):

If you meant the latter, I agree that would be really cool. :)

[ustk]

@iamlamprey Yeah of course I know FX export ;) I mean using Hise as FX

[A Former User]

@ustk Hahah sorry, had some other people ask that in the past ;) a live HISE environment would be really cool, might be a bit crashy depending on the daw but...

[ustk]

@iamlamprey Why do think it would be less stable than using it as an instrument?

[A Former User]

@ustk I think interacting with the playhead/engine of the DAW + sending parameter info out while simultaneously doing all the regular HISE stuff like scriptnode and modulation would start to get complicated pretty quickly.

it's just speculation but, I'm no c++ guru, and the guys over at bluecat make it work pretty well with plug'n'script from what I've seen, so maybe it would work fine

[alepan]

@iamlamprey Hi! I'm trying some of your suggestions. I have a question: what is the tanh() module supposed to do? All I can hear is that at 1 the signal passes unaffected, while if I turn it down, the signal seems to pass into something like an "eq" as it becomes darker and also lower in volume. Shouldn't it add harmonic content? I am probably missing something here ;)

Here's the beginning of the a 1176-style compressor (no parameters have been set yet, it's just the modules)

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[A Former User]

@alepan Hey, the tanh node is a waveshaping function. Leave it set to 1, then add a gain before and after (input and output), once you crank the input gain, you should start to hear saturation, then bring the output gain down to match the level :)

you can use any of those functions for different types of saturation, sin() is nice too

[Christoph Hart]

IIRC the tanh function looks similar to the transfer function of some non-linear electronic components which is why it‘s used as a simple approximation of their behaviour.

[alepan]

@iamlamprey @Christoph-Hart thanks a lot!

[ustk]

I was thinking that even if we cannot build as FX, it would be good to have inputs available even in standalone mode. This way we can always route a signal from an audio interface mixer and/or DAW outputs...

[A Former User]

Is there some chebyshev function (I am sure it is not correct to say it like that) in scriptnode?

[Christoph Hart]

There is a stateless waveshaper node that you can enter any formula including chebychev polynoms in the new version...

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart That is awesome! Now, you are talking about the new HISE 3.0 update that everybody is talking about?

[Christoph Hart]

@vewilya said in HISE + PluginDoctor = OP:

Now, you are talking about the new HISE 3.0 update that everybody is talking about?

Yup.

[clevername27]

I'm a little confused - is Plugin Doctor simply an FFT display of the before and after?

[Matt_SF]

@clevername27 it's an analysis software. You can run you plugin's into it and it will basically display what it does to the audio signal (frequency/phase response, distortion etc...)

[clevername27]

@Matt_SF Thanks, Matt. It sounds like it's indeed FFT displays of the before and after. Cheers. It is possible to have a plugin that simply copies other plugins, though there's obviously ethical questions there.

[lalalandsynth]

@clevername27 Everything is a remix :)

[Fortune]

@clevername27 said in HISE + PluginDoctor = OP:

@Matt_SF Thanks, Matt. It sounds like it's indeed FFT displays of the before and after. Cheers. It is possible to have a plugin that simply copies other plugins, though there's obviously ethical questions there.

Hardware emulations have been cloned/analyzed similarly for years (before Plugin Doctor). Also, it is not such easy to clone a plugin without a deep knowledge of DSP. I am talking about really good plugins/emulations.