HISE + PluginDoctor = OP

[A Former User]

@ustk Do you mean make FX Plugins with HISE? Or run HISE in a sort of realtime development tool inside a DAW?

You can already do the former (export as FX Plugin):

If you meant the latter, I agree that would be really cool. :)

[ustk]

@iamlamprey Yeah of course I know FX export ;) I mean using Hise as FX

[A Former User]

@ustk Hahah sorry, had some other people ask that in the past ;) a live HISE environment would be really cool, might be a bit crashy depending on the daw but...

[ustk]

@iamlamprey Why do think it would be less stable than using it as an instrument?

[A Former User]

@ustk I think interacting with the playhead/engine of the DAW + sending parameter info out while simultaneously doing all the regular HISE stuff like scriptnode and modulation would start to get complicated pretty quickly.

it's just speculation but, I'm no c++ guru, and the guys over at bluecat make it work pretty well with plug'n'script from what I've seen, so maybe it would work fine

[alepan]

@iamlamprey Hi! I'm trying some of your suggestions. I have a question: what is the tanh() module supposed to do? All I can hear is that at 1 the signal passes unaffected, while if I turn it down, the signal seems to pass into something like an "eq" as it becomes darker and also lower in volume. Shouldn't it add harmonic content? I am probably missing something here ;)

Here's the beginning of the a 1176-style compressor (no parameters have been set yet, it's just the modules)

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[A Former User]

@alepan Hey, the tanh node is a waveshaping function. Leave it set to 1, then add a gain before and after (input and output), once you crank the input gain, you should start to hear saturation, then bring the output gain down to match the level :)

you can use any of those functions for different types of saturation, sin() is nice too

[Christoph Hart]

IIRC the tanh function looks similar to the transfer function of some non-linear electronic components which is why it‘s used as a simple approximation of their behaviour.

[alepan]

@iamlamprey @Christoph-Hart thanks a lot!

[ustk]

I was thinking that even if we cannot build as FX, it would be good to have inputs available even in standalone mode. This way we can always route a signal from an audio interface mixer and/or DAW outputs...

[A Former User]

Is there some chebyshev function (I am sure it is not correct to say it like that) in scriptnode?

[Christoph Hart]

There is a stateless waveshaper node that you can enter any formula including chebychev polynoms in the new version...

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart That is awesome! Now, you are talking about the new HISE 3.0 update that everybody is talking about?

[Christoph Hart]

@vewilya said in HISE + PluginDoctor = OP:

Now, you are talking about the new HISE 3.0 update that everybody is talking about?

Yup.

[clevername27]

I'm a little confused - is Plugin Doctor simply an FFT display of the before and after?

[Matt_SF]

@clevername27 it's an analysis software. You can run you plugin's into it and it will basically display what it does to the audio signal (frequency/phase response, distortion etc...)

[clevername27]

@Matt_SF Thanks, Matt. It sounds like it's indeed FFT displays of the before and after. Cheers. It is possible to have a plugin that simply copies other plugins, though there's obviously ethical questions there.

[lalalandsynth]

@clevername27 Everything is a remix :)

[Fortune]

@clevername27 said in HISE + PluginDoctor = OP:

@Matt_SF Thanks, Matt. It sounds like it's indeed FFT displays of the before and after. Cheers. It is possible to have a plugin that simply copies other plugins, though there's obviously ethical questions there.

Hardware emulations have been cloned/analyzed similarly for years (before Plugin Doctor). Also, it is not such easy to clone a plugin without a deep knowledge of DSP. I am talking about really good plugins/emulations.

[Christoph Hart]

Lol I'm waiting for the first plugin that is marketed as a simulation of another plugin that is a simulation of a hardware FX...