@Christoph-Hart Thank you so much mate, I really appreciate your help!

I know the theory well but don't have a deep C++ know-how as even 1/1000 of you. I woke up and saw your message and I've been on this for 3 hours with tons of tests, first code wasn't working well but your updated code sounds great!

Below is the dynamics test on the PluginDoctor. Like you said the Knee Width depends on the Threshold value (maybe I need to modify it with a pma node to fix the value), but if it is set, you can get awesome curves and tones.

Also even I put all of them into a frame2 block, the compiled network is incredibly fast and cpu effective! I've never seen this kind of thing, congrats Christoph, that is showing that you're a real Genius.

Maybe you can add this to the templates.

Here is my another contribution. Rotating Tape Reel icon knobs.

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@clevername27 said in Expandable GUI:

@Christoph-Hart An interface that changes size is poor design. You should never require so many on-screen widgets as to require the expansion of the interface. Think contextually.

No, you are looking at it from a very shallow and tiny perspective.

This has nothing to do with a large number of parameters. Several parameters can also be stored at the user's discretion. This has to do with flexibility.

Maybe you can choose not to use the expandable GUI from this perspective. But Users want to see this feature, just like they want the resize feature too.

For example, let's consider an fx plugin with Mid-Side feature. Users who do not want to use Mid-Side prefer to see only one channel and perform stereo processing. Users who want to use Mid-Side want to see the mid and side parts on the screen at the same time, which is important for them in terms of intervention. In such a case, the screen expand feature can be used for users who want Mid-Side.

Or another example: while some users want to see a huge analyzer on the screen, some do not. The expand feature can be used for this.

These were just two examples, even if you do a little research on other forums, you can understand that the expandable GUI feature is a feature sought by users.

Besides, many leading developers use this feature in their plugins as new plugins are released every day.

@d-healey Ok

Ok here is a handy snippet for those who want to use it as a quick starting with AudioWaveForm LAF

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@christoph-hart Definitely I agree

@orange Wohaaaa below words are GOLD for me, thank you so much for these precious suggestions. Every developer should benefit from these words of experience. You are GREAT!!

@orange said in How to promote plugins?:

@steve-mohican You've got several options:

• The first channel is social media marketing (Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube) as @dustbro mentioned.

• The second channel is email marketing. Still today it is very effective and all of the big brands do it continuously. But to do it, you need user emails, do not buy any bulk email addresses. The users should be subscribed to your newsletter email list themselves. For collecting emails, I suggest giving away a free plugin. This way you can collect audio industry-specific user emails.

• Another channel is forum websites. I highly suggest GearSpace, KvR, vi-control...etc. But be careful on this, forum websites (especially GearSpace) can be very dangerous for a new company because you can get lots of noise, arguments, attacks, even if your product is good :D But if the GearSpace audience accept your product, then you're ready to go everywhere ;)

• You can contact Audio Industry Blogs such as Rekkerd, Bedroom Producers Blog...etc to publish your product release news. Also, you can publish one news per week in the KvR blog for free!

• I also suggest resellers (ADSR Sounds, APD, Producer Spot, Plugin Boutique...) Because they have thousands of existing customer database and the resellers can reach to them for you with a commission price.

And thanks to everyone who shared their ideas.

I think GS forums are one of the toughest places. I see topics from uad, ssl, slate digital, plugin alliance, and other big names... And all of them are bombed by people, bad words, insulting...etc. all the things are there. I think it is a very hard place for a small company to start with, I don't suggest actually

Will there be a some kind of drag n drop (vertical or horizontal) plugin player in the future?
For example like below:

@dustbro For example, if the delay time of the plugin is 500 samples; just insert this code into the begining of the on init script;

Engine.setLatencySamples(500);

With this way, plugin reports delay compensation to the DAW in the very begining of the initialization.

I am using it on fx plugins it doesn't give errors. But it doesn't work in almost all DAWs.

@d-healey Ok, Thanks.

@d-healey Sorry, can you please give a small example with the broadcaster & reg combination for this use?

@d-healey Thank you!

That is, defining the GUI_EXTRA_HEIGHT variable and setting the panels that need to be positioned automatically on the Expand button's callback on the y-axis again.

Normally, my template is more complex and I also use the GUI_HEIGHT variable in some inline functions in this template too, I don't know why but I get instant crash while clicking the ResizeButton.

Yes Content.getHeight() would be useful.

For my projects, I have a template that includes top, bottom menus and automatically positions according to the dimensions of the GUI.

Therefore, instead of using direct numbers for the plugin UI, I use variables such as GUI_WIDTH and GUI_WIDTH in many places in this template.

Now, I will add our new feature, the GUI Expansion button, to this template,

I need the bottom bar to be placed automatically when the GUI is expanded vertically.

But since I use these common variable parameters in many places, I was going to ask if there is a shorter and smarter way to handle this, friends.

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@Christoph-Hart As you can see, everyone is asking you to add this feature. It shouldn't be hard for you since lots of companies are using this feature.

@clevername27 while 100 people want this, it is very unreasonable for one person to come out and oppose it. If you don't want to, don't use this feature, it's that simple! When this feature is added, nothing will happen to plugins that do not use it. Many people have talked to you about this topic before, but you're still buzzing... Many experts here (plus tons of companies use this in the market) will not take GUI lessons from you. Please do not take such approaches.

@Christoph-Hart said in 4.0.0 is here:

So this version now has this feature that many people requested before, right?

No, this wasn't added yet.

Man, you even added RTNeural framework & nodes and tons of other stuff.
This feature will be boring for you, please add it

@Christoph-Hart Congrats!

So this version now has this feature that many people requested before, right?
https://forum.hise.audio/topic/7266/expandable-gui?_=1718280950768

You may have heard of it, I want to share with you a situation that will affect all developers.

Windows 11 announced that it can run on QUALCOMM ARM-based artificial intelligence-supported processors. This issue does not look good for classic Intel and AMD.

I wondered how this situation would affect developers in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MH8TVU9Wc

@Christoph-Hart Lately, I've started to see new developers using HISE frequently. This company is one of them:

https://www.adsrsounds.com/software-developer/new-nation-software/

There are tons of Hise made plugins with this company. The below are only a couple of the plugins.

@clevername27 said in Expandable GUI:

@Christoph-Hart An interface that changes size is poor design. You should never require so many on-screen widgets as to require the expansion of the interface. Think contextually.

No, you are looking at it from a very shallow and tiny perspective.

This has nothing to do with a large number of parameters. Several parameters can also be stored at the user's discretion. This has to do with flexibility.

Maybe you can choose not to use the expandable GUI from this perspective. But Users want to see this feature, just like they want the resize feature too.

For example, let's consider an fx plugin with Mid-Side feature. Users who do not want to use Mid-Side prefer to see only one channel and perform stereo processing. Users who want to use Mid-Side want to see the mid and side parts on the screen at the same time, which is important for them in terms of intervention. In such a case, the screen expand feature can be used for users who want Mid-Side.

Or another example: while some users want to see a huge analyzer on the screen, some do not. The expand feature can be used for this.

These were just two examples, even if you do a little research on other forums, you can understand that the expandable GUI feature is a feature sought by users.

Besides, many leading developers use this feature in their plugins as new plugins are released every day.