Realtime changes in Sine and Waveform gen?

lalalandsynth

I havent messed around with the synth parts of Hise much , just looking at them now , wondering if I am stuck with non-realtime changes to Octave/Semitones and Detune , they only change on a Note On which would feel weird when designing a sound on a synth , maybe this is different using scriptnode ?

I hope its possible somehow as I dont think I have ever encountered a synth that makes the changes to the OSC on note on?

I could possibly use a constant modulator for the detune but not the octave.

Thoughts ?

EDIT; Rereading my post I can see that I am unclear , I want to be able to change Octave in a synth module and it changes even while I hold a note , as it stands I can move the Octave knob and nothing changes until I retrigger the synth.

hisefilo

@lalalandsynth Have you messed with Pitch modulators?? Maybe this is what you need. (use mod wheel to call aliens)

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lalalandsynth

@hisefilo i will check that snippet when i come home but i was referring to the octave and detune knobs on the actual sine and waveform module ,will this snippet circumvent that issue ?

If I was to use these controls on a synth , they dont update their value unless I retrigger note which kind of makes them not usable for making a synth .

Lindon

@lalalandsynth said in Realtime changes in Sine and Waveform gen?:

@hisefilo i will check that snippet when i come home but i was referring to the octave and detune knobs on the actual sine and waveform module ,will this snippet circumvent that issue ?

If I was to use these controls on a synth , they dont update their value unless I retrigger note which kind of makes them not usable for making a synth .

they're not supposed to be what you use for pitch changes - use the Pitch Modulators - the ones in purple in your image...

lalalandsynth

Maybe I am just misunderstanding but I dont want to modulate the Octave as such , I just want a knob on my synth that can change the Octave, or Detune , while I hold a note i.e without having to retrigger it.

.Just like on a regular synth where I would put these on the front panel and they react in realtime , not only on note retrigger.
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d.healey

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lalalandsynth

@d-healey
I cant use the constant to change the detune of Osc 1 or 2, only both at the same time.
Also It will only go an octave up or down so not usable as an octave switcher.

lalalandsynth

@Christoph-Hart

Is it possible to fix this at some point , makes it hard to use the oscillators for a basic synth.

To reiterate , the Octave and semi tones only change their value on Note On , rather then realtime, which is unexpected for a user if used in a synth.

I am not referring to modulation , just the basic setting of octave , Semi tone and detune of an oscillator.

dejans

@lalalandsynth This is the workaround for now.

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