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    • LindonL
      Lindon @lalalandsynth
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      @lalalandsynth ok well I'm very slightly less envious then...☺

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      • lalalandsynthL
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        • lalalandsynthL
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          So am capturing the EMT 244 today . it does have quite a bit of low end hums and noise , any thoughts on how to deal with that kind of thing , as it is the noise would be added to the impulse.

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            tomekslesicki @lalalandsynth
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            @lalalandsynth That's a super-nice studio! Regarding the noise from the EMT - you might want to capture a bit of that after the sweep and noise reduce the impulse in RX.

            And when it comes to mics, this might be of interest to you: http://micirp.blogspot.com/p/about-micirp.html :-)

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            • lalalandsynthL
              lalalandsynth
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              Looks like i am getting some aliasing ?
              I should have tested a longer impulse to see if there was less aliasing , just to be sure , dont know if that would change anything ? Having said that , if aliasing is part of the sound then so be it :)

              This impulse is from the EMT 246 which really only goes to 12k (probably contributes to how nice it sounds) and the "aliasing" is pretty clear.
              Aliasing.jpg

              Also wondering if I should normalize impulses before deconvolving or if I should normalize the resulting impulse , guess I need to do some tests.

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              • lalalandsynthL
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                Couple of questions .

                1. What is the max length of an impulse in the convolution Reberb ?

                2. I know "UseBackgroundThread if true , then the convolution will be executed on a background thread." but what does that mean in practice ?

                3. is it possible somehow to set the gain pre impulse ? Pre-preset .
                  So not on the convolution reverb gui but maybe via some sort of scripting ?

                4. When using a Tick/sample to make an impulse of a static setting , after deconvolving it just sounds like a phase mess when mixed with the dry signal, what are the techniques to get this right ...I guess I would need to measure the recording latency ?

                Suggestion , it would be nice to have a setting that could offset the start of the impulse. to remove predelay if needed , rather then having to edit the predelay out of the impulse.

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                • lalalandsynthL
                  lalalandsynth
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                  Ok, after editing impulses all day I am having thoughts about levels and normalizing.

                  After looking at impulses from waves IR-1 for example , they are all normalized and quite a few of them clip when set to 100% wet.

                  I also noticed then when my sweep file is peaking at -3 dB and then I deconvolve , the resulting impulse is at -29db.
                  I am assuming this is normal after deconvolving but it means I definitely need to normalize.
                  Using the impulse untouched in an impulse reverb and it way too low.

                  I guess normalize and then set all impulses to -3 to -6 ?

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                  • lalalandsynthL
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                    Does anyone have experience of taking "static" impulses , like speakers , eq's etc ?

                    I did try a couple of those but had massive phase issues when blending with dry signal.
                    What procedure should one use to capture the impulse and maintain phase coherence ?

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                    • hisefiloH
                      hisefilo @lalalandsynth
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                      this is what I'm using, if it helps.

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                      • lalalandsynthL
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                        Are you using this for a static impulse, rather then reverb and such ?

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                        • hisefiloH
                          hisefilo @lalalandsynth
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                          @lalalandsynth I just opened and last thing I did remains there. It's a reverb impulse if remember correctly (a test in my room)

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                          • NatanN
                            Natan
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                            @lalalandsynth said in Capturing Impulses...software, techniques.:

                            What is the max length of an impulse in the convolution Reberb ?

                            Did anyone get an Answer For This?
                            @Christoph-Hart

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
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                              There's no artificial limit (it throws an assertion for impulses > 20 seconds, but that's just in debug mode), so the limit is your CPU.

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