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    • ustkU
      ustk @Christoph Hart
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      @Christoph-Hart Ok so due to other another issue that causes an instant DAW crash, I need to stay on my custom branch.

      The fix I've made is:
      Screenshot 2026-05-04 at 17.09.59.png

      Don't bother the GlobalModulators.h, I reverted it...

      But I confirm it's only working when cycling bypass once after init. If it's related to my fix I don't know, because I can't remove it without seeing the plugin crashing the DAW...

      Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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      • Christoph HartC
        Christoph Hart @ustk
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        @ustk but that's not the hardcoded master FX - just tried again with a simple dsp network that modulates an osc with an extramod - it initialises the connection correctly. We're talking about loading the project fresh in HISE, right?

        But your fix look good, no reason to call this with a samplerate of zero.

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        • ustkU
          ustk @Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix modulation connection is broken in exported plugin:

          We're talking about loading the project fresh in HISE, right?

          No, it was always working in Hise, the issue is with the exported binary.

          Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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          • ustkU
            ustk @Christoph Hart
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            @Christoph-Hart AI said that it was initillay because Hise already prepared all the processes (or something like this) so modules are well ready to work.
            But exported plugins needs to do it at init so prepare to play was not ready yet (or reset with bad samplerate) when the modules are initialising, if it ever make sense to you...

            Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @ustk
              last edited by

              @ustk ah yes sure, now I'm back on track. Let me just check the current example as exported plugin, but I checked this exact setup back when I fixed it last week.

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              • ustkU
                ustk @Christoph Hart
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                @Christoph-Hart I expect your binary to crash if you don't have samplerate fix from above. Or something is definitely weird...
                I you need I can provide you with my project.

                Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @ustk
                  last edited by

                  @ustk no my test never touches that codepath. I'm loading a compiled network in a hardcoded fx - all your changes are modifying the script FX modules. What's your exact setup?

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                  • ustkU
                    ustk @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by ustk

                    @Christoph-Hart Mmmm... Maybe because I am still using a basic ScriptFX in the project that I don't compile (but I can compile it and use it in a hcfx) that the crash happens without the samplerate fix. I'll try to place it in a HCFX to sse if it's at least stable without the fix.
                    But yeah that's not related to the HCFX module thing

                    The setup is:

                    • FXs are hardcoded modules
                    • They make use of NUM_HARDCODED_FX_MODS=8
                    • Extra mod slots are receiving a matrix modulator
                    • UI components have a matrixTargetId set to the corresponding matrix modulator name of the corresponding hcfx

                    In the networks:

                    • there are extra_mod nodes set to the index of the extra mod slot
                    • Corresponding network parameters have their ExternalModulation property set to Combined

                    HCFX modules are bypassed from UI buttons.

                    So at init, the state of the project has been saved with the init preset, that has all modules unbypassed by default. Then other presets are bypassing/unbypassing the modules as you load them. It's only when a module has been cycled bypassed/unbypassed at least once that is actually able to modify the sound

                    Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart @ustk
                      last edited by

                      I'm testing pretty much this setup:

                      1. global mod => LFO
                      2. hardcoded FX in master chain with network:
                        • 1 parameter, set to combined
                        • modulates a osc.freqRatio
                        • extra_mod slot has a MatrixModulator connected to the LFO
                        • no preset, nothing, just the default state

                      Load VST3 instance => pitch wobbles. Before the fix it didn't.

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        @Christoph-Hart Are you exporting an FX or INSTRUMENT?

                        Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                        • ustkU
                          ustk @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @Christoph-Hart Any snippet for me to test out?

                          Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk @ustk
                            last edited by ustk

                            @Christoph-Hart I've made this simple snippet and it doesn't work. Not from UI parameter, not from LFO...
                            What did I do wrong? 🤔

                            HiseSnippet 1946.3oc2Y0rbibaDFinfVsZW63s104PpbfGksWqZFpgTRUNXt5OaVdoDsHsbpjCJPy.RhRy.LYFvUhNUtma4UxOB4IHUdDxafciAyOXjHszxUVdKSUEKBz.n+Pit+5FP8hEdzjDQLxZsASinHqmh6OkKGu2XBii5rOx5CwRZhrgciV1MscQ6NMhjjP8QVV09R0Xrd7xnzO++uXWR.g6QK6BgNUv7nulExjk8F09qYAAGR7oCXgFi1scGOAeOQfXBfmZXaTDw6BxH5QD0vVBi9JRxXj0mh8caQItt9dzFCota277s1bys8Z4Z6a2pAsYqgD6la4NzEYsxA9LoHtuj.6Bj0x6J7m1er3RtVAmxRXmGPUMbP8AMq69PQfuZKp5Es2XVfeubCUBBYg6UZ1poMau.2k4yJ5uz78QoBpWNCSCn0RUgWsJvywDd1FvaFPxx.RKqgzyv88hYQxRIJ77DbGtjFOj.mSlPQOVj0Of2S.CfK2HjbA8vXnQwDVuks8KqCe8I+ogS3dRlfWWvORHoGyW+SV6er1iW6etV8qKZ3vYJSolXQP.MdlhUtFw+bSbc9jvyowur9aHASnECD19Uso34aSMOx8z6ZiAJ3c3L4wQT97bDPYlJk8OCUvPkoV+OLy52Of4SiQLvH+H7WyEm6fRAbla++66ew+8KPeam8IRR9x.qHnkHZrjo1.V6SeCDDoOTeLdeZxERQT5XCiDbk9sV8VU5UkwYr1SKZ7Cm2NjHiYWMfDOhJ63qTwgwz+9Yc6hjzqf0dE7gmbv2ftj4KGWLu1+s1iorQiMBq6zFcSmPv8W3OIfHqFSnXNxD.GpUbDUda7DlbpIyx8VfxcEhOC2iI8FOaLtzLvHb38KAFynW9.7ACGR8jk.bY7g+4eg3RV5l1n0xbr.cpIQzMqWECKkSh7uvkArQwzHRLcfnW.Y55Ijvn.5I.DeY8yCDdWzm88zaFkGoQvtpQrt2XBmSCRVDxfUtyFEm2ZB1Y53rJ9fqjwDmGRe5SDSjL9ntoAx.i2QSB6C4P8n6kY4f9rVRwWoaaqZq.QeJ2OswOBexD5nZakIzIWXIUG5Hp7RQ7EoFkreCaasaQRpCvYCuBcJMNQE1.DP1a.+gdUPf3REkEKKfJcSBYzGPXA5sV5P5IBlFMVvYdJKmdB4ajWEJlnn6z6lxfycy8jJ1XSR.da+i48gImVRBDfXcjvG90iNj3Al8o8HJ9rmgUL+voGMdCuhSQycR4AoBi5ZQLkqNx5Qhg9gzjI5skRS4ExnQDrQBSopgxXrpojmFpogzJZVwKiIQTk2yYgBvzWAmerANCgJJzXcVX6FqycELVFf4I3hEnJN9H.GwzMJkNaySo7aQ6KWdJpSAkjkFjS8ztIo1HUhomhEIdPkip.NTgEWI4Ioorl.mzSQHiyBEWVdKP6cY7S04dwJmRTWxUYsWA6zB5nujFk4Fgcf1JKwifBl7ofCs4LQ2skUuJyZU+c40P1mMhSBt1pq75CnWkWTv9rjHf7b2IPN.MYTkdf1ZHBIE9bmzzG4EOT0ZTQRJilpEPJsjBROE2I4TkTuR7.wYFNEUN.tQTD3UXHdVtEUl+s4U9NZCLcBV4tdZ4NmSqUTL8z46BrZ4h9briMHV8wwcGaGmVNFp343l4R2xsocyssaYnvW.Krisc0I2+B5kZasd.MZryN1tMa0nwltau01My3qJC.F.wdCDoJDBidCbhpfn4H1mNjLIPVfoFMxvzlM1Z6FMa1D8pIRATWXwcflmAz4tFE8zT0W+DUfNpxzemCkVAplTReGVTcTduwjD5bLd+d7Qh3PR.nY+dTHwJvDOh9NPIjiafBOq+OPc12vcycfav17ZmP46o4EWCgxF5Vu1JyM51fA3UWdcaGDT4BMFXiLp5Ep7CBDOGR63WgVdQYSVja5XVOLVK743uhD66AAk9cII.pyJL8iK6utVv0JQsVQEKlovSMVlkxW6gtrQHefS8eUtQTEHtV9SGnqkr.noXr7hglnqqfKxqWqDdmPg4OZjxgrryx8WJcZFs+L2d6MIAXfT41gjAmd8KL2OTHjigRdq9.RcZeucvo04IDNDlq7n4QSj5VV3PyW8BgBIWYh7NZViTaSRAcU4vULL2N0B53Ix6MU9sIztL+dBvHC19Wk7WnwB0XePt3fg20pZuq+.9KCDmWPy.gA4U1l5l8GyDWuPd8xAL+me7+b++7iW+ojV9t4McKud3xu285g20GE4423jI4WKhpmogIF+5CONi.E9UIvtcbsKKRDPTENVqrxnB4q1V4fzoz+p8+t82QdCcHDrlkepXkdMcDnRydFPCiD8mx8L8EmCo0KZ+ZgH5.NALB9lKRZAIGObXBUVYYfkcfPmbaO08dME1YDGpCW+hrl8qoSy2.ojppRoRyEa8Wwsb2.9L7yTeuydvWad78S62lGEy4s9UoliSpxQn3HW4R7d36KpQYgi26on7m8UPq8a5WA8AI2ndw0UD+fnvPhWr3LO8ilphpVMsGvHvSug9igB+f10q9OoPWyAjH5LOupK0MlXiEchatnSzcQmXyEchsVzIt0hNwsu8IppSH6V6p3TDpauCzz6VE4VfJ99If8wJvB
                            

                            Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                            • ustkU
                              ustk @ustk
                              last edited by

                              @Christoph-Hart Nothing that I can test make it work, using develop branch. (note that it crashes with develop when a scriptFX is present in the tree)

                              A macro or a flag I missed perhaps?

                              Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                              • resonantR
                                resonant @ustk
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                                @ustk said in Matrix modulation connection is broken in exported plugin:

                                @Christoph-Hart Are you exporting an FX or INSTRUMENT?

                                I have the same issue on the exported fx plugin and reported a while ago: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/13977/modulation-matrix-fx-plugin-crashes-in-daw?_=1777946560667

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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk @Christoph Hart
                                  last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart Another strange behaviour, I am currently trying with AU export, which is working aside of the current problem we are trying to solve. I guess it's related to MacOS (me) vs Windows (you?)
                                  But that same snippet exported as VST3, and ableton live says:

                                  Screenshot 2026-05-05 at 15.22.24.png

                                  Screenshot 2026-05-05 at 15.19.39.png

                                  Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                                  • David HealeyD
                                    David Healey @ustk
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                                    @ustk Could all your problems be related to this juce 8 thing?

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                                    • ustkU
                                      ustk @David Healey
                                      last edited by

                                      @David-Healey Perhaps... But I am JUCE 6... Or schizophrenic... 🤷♂

                                      Screenshot 2026-05-05 at 15.33.51.png

                                      Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                                      • David HealeyD
                                        David Healey @ustk
                                        last edited by

                                        @ustk Why is xcode referencing 8.0.3

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                                        • ustkU
                                          ustk @David Healey
                                          last edited by

                                          @David-Healey To this day I have no answer for this...

                                          Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                                          • David HealeyD
                                            David Healey @ustk
                                            last edited by

                                            @ustk Definitely only got one copy of the source?

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