Export Setup Wizard Problems

David Healey

The wizard seems to cause more issues than it solves. Especially when there are updates to Visual Studio or IPP. And it doesn't work at all on Linux.

I was also just looking at the source code and I noticed it downloads the master branch which nobody wants.

Why not get rid of the wizard? If people have compiled HISE from source then they are more than likely already setup for exporting.

If they haven't compiled from source then maybe just give them a message that tells them to do that when they try to export.

dannytaurus

@David-Healey I think this in-between download/compile method is more harmful than helpful. Allowing folks to download a pre-compiled HISE but not keeping it up to date.

If compiling HISE from source is the intended path, then drop the pre-compiled download.
If using a pre-compiled HISE is supported/encouraged then keep the download up to date.

On a separate note, I'd like to see HISE get back to the master branch. It's just another source of confusion to tell new folks to use develop because master is so out of date.

Christoph Hart

Yeah let‘s ditch that stuff. I‘d rather experiment with AI agents helping with the setup.

dannytaurus

@Christoph-Hart Genuinely don't know if you're joking or not

Christoph Hart

@dannytaurus no joke. Just run Claude code / Opencode with this agent and tell it to install everything so you can use HISE. Let's embrace the future, rofl.

Christoph Hart

@Christoph-Hart alright, there's a hise-setup.md file that contains instructions. Now the steps to install HISE are:

open your AI agent tool, make sure it has the ability to perform bash stuff
paste in the prompt "Download and execute https://raw.githubusercontent.com/christophhart/HISE/develop/hise-setup.md as an AI agent to set up HISE on this computer."
follow the instructions.

Some models will refuse to do this for very reasonable security concerns, but some models will raw dog the content and directly execute it as if there is no evil in this world, so if you get some response like "mimii can't execute sudo mimimi", just pick another one.

I've checked it here on my Macbook and it kind of worked, but I haven't run it on a vanilla system, so whoever wants to be the brave pioneer to test this on a clean system will help out a lot.

David Healey

@Christoph-Hart I don't have a fresh system to test on and I don't think my VM could handle running it. But on my main system with opencode I'll do a dry run.

Christoph Hart

@David-Healey yup you can set it to test mode amd then it just prints out what it would do. It‘s of limited use but I‘ll keep it in until this has stabilized.

All the hours we spend with this subject and now it‘s just „let the robot do that lol“…

David Healey

@Christoph-Hart Dry run tells me it wants to install components that aren't needed and the wrong version of libwebkit2gtk for my system - I think I'll be doing it manually for a while yet

[TEST MODE] Would execute: sudo apt-get -y install build-essential make llvm clang libfreetype6-dev libx11-dev libxinerama-dev libxrandr-dev libxcursor-dev mesa-common-dev libasound2-dev freeglut3-dev libxcomposite-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libgtk-3-dev libjack-jackd2-dev libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev libpthread-stubs0-dev ladspa-sdk

Oh it's also checking if GCC is lower than 11. That's no longer an issue, I'm building on v15.

Would check: gcc --version ≤ 11

I think it should prompt for the config. I'd probably want ReleaseWithFaust.

[TEST MODE] Would execute: make CONFIG=Release AR=gcc-ar -j`nproc --ignore=2`

Didn't give a choice to install and use faust, IPP or FFTW.

Christoph Hart

@David-Healey yes I also noticed the faust config already. Which model are you using? If there are any wrong dependencies it should figure this out but we can of course improve the script I oneshotted it in 30 minutes.

David Healey

@Christoph-Hart I'm using code llama - I only have 6GB VRAM so I'm rather limited.

@Christoph-Hart said in Export Setup Wizard Problems:

if there are any wrong dependencies it should figure this out

Ah maybe it doesn't do that in test mode it just runs through the commands.

Christoph Hart

@David-Healey yeah a 6gb local model won‘t get you too far. I tried it with Opus 4.5 and it even fixed a compile error I introduced in the last commit…

David Healey

@Christoph-Hart Yeah if I get into it I'll use a cloud model.

Christoph Hart

@David-Healey the free one from opencode should be fine too (Big Pickle).

David Healey

@Christoph-Hart Aha I missed that one.

David Healey

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David Healey

Well colour me impressed! It fixed the bug.

Edit: Actually maybe desaturate me, I'm not sure if it hasn't introduced another issue.... more checking required.

Edit 2: Na fix doesn't work.

David Healey

@Christoph-Hart said in Export Setup Wizard Problems:

@dannytaurus no joke. Just run Claude code / Opencode with this agent and tell it to install everything so you can use HISE. Let's embrace the future, rofl.

So I've been thinking and this doesn't make the process any simpler for a newcomer, it actually makes it more complicated and harder to solve when the AI screws up.

I have a much better solution. A simple bash/batch script. This is what I've been using for years for automated builds.

All a new user would need to do is run install_hise.sh. It could even detect an existing install and prompt to update instead.

Christoph Hart

@David-Healey We could also provide a "static" build script, but this still has a few advantages. It basically behaves like a build script but is able to interpret error messages and try other stuff while the build script just fails and we'll get a new forum topic where we need to explain how to extract a zip file.

For example the current version on windows tries to download IPP / Faust using a Powershell command, which somehow failed in my VM, no idea why, don't care. The Agent realized this and switched to another method (curl / wget), then validated the files after downloading.

Currently I'm fighting against some issues where the compilation of HISE chokes at the memory but I can't say whether this is an issue of my limited VM resources or something the agent does wrong.

But once the process goes through we can just tell the agent to create a bash script / bat file that performs all those steps, then everybody can choose whether to run the script or use the agent.

dannytaurus

@Christoph-Hart said in Export Setup Wizard Problems:

Currently I'm fighting against some issues where the compilation of HISE chokes at the memory but I can't say whether this is an issue of my limited VM resources or something the agent does wrong.

Sounds like my issues with compiling HISE on an 8GB MacBook Pro. Basically impossible.

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