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    • DanHD
      DanH @Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      @Christoph-Hart cool, very straightforward :)

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      • DanHD
        DanH @DanH
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart I've recently had a few seemingly random crashes of Hise. Just moving my mouse and boom... Seems it could be something to do with mouse hover and the new mod system? Or maybe I've messed something up in my configuration. Would you mind looking at the crashed thread?

        Thread 0 Crashed:: JUCE Message Thread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
        0   HISE-5                        	       0x104b6e4e4 hise::MatrixIds::Helpers::IntensityTextConverter::IntensityTextConverter(hise::MatrixIds::Helpers::IntensityTextConverter::ConstructData const&) + 80
        1   HISE-5                        	       0x10497ff64 hise::HiSlider::HoverPopup::rebuild() + 1652
        2   HISE-5                        	       0x10497f108 hise::HiSlider::showModHoverPopup(bool, bool) + 4380
        3   HISE-5                        	       0x10497be78 hise::HiSlider::mouseEnter(juce::MouseEvent const&) + 24
        4   HISE-5                        	       0x105f9522c juce::Component::internalMouseEnter(juce::MouseInputSource, juce::Point<float>, juce::Time) + 280
        5   HISE-5                        	       0x105f5a438 juce::MouseInputSourceInternal::setComponentUnderMouse(juce::Component*, juce::Point<float>, juce::Time) + 684
        6   HISE-5                        	       0x105f597a0 juce::MouseInputSourceInternal::setScreenPos(juce::Point<float>, juce::Time, bool) + 108
        7   HISE-5                        	       0x105f84834 juce::JuceNSViewClass::mouseMoved(objc_object*, objc_selector*, NSEvent*) + 216
        8   AppKit                        	       0x197152098 -[NSTrackingArea mouseMoved:] + 116
        9   AppKit                        	       0x1977d7bcc -[_NSTrackingAreaAKManager _mouseMoved:] + 440
        10  AppKit                        	       0x197b06220 _routeMouseMovedEvent + 224
        11  AppKit                        	       0x197067d20 -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 556
        12  AppKit                        	       0x19706792c -[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 288
        13  AppKit                        	       0x1978df780 routeMouseMovedEvent + 148
        14  AppKit                        	       0x1978def5c -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 1192
        15  AppKit                        	       0x1974de4a4 -[NSApplication _handleEvent:] + 60
        16  AppKit                        	       0x196f34c8c -[NSApplication run] + 520
        17  HISE-5                        	       0x10472a5a8 main + 296
        18  dyld                          	       0x192e66b4c start + 6000
        

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        • OrvillainO
          Orvillain
          last edited by

          @Christoph-Hart

          Does the ModulationMatrixController use the FloatingTile fontSize property???

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart @Orvillain
            last edited by

            @Orvillain nope

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            • OrvillainO
              Orvillain @Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              @Christoph-Hart

              I'm trying to do this:

              inline function setupModulationControlPanelLAF(numDraggers)
                  {
                      Console.print("rescaling triggers the setupModulationControlPanelLAF, and UI_SCALE is: " + SharedData.UI_SCALE);
                      local wPct = 100.0 / numDraggers;
                      local fontPx = Math.round(12 * SharedData.UI_SCALE);
                      Console.print("fontpx is: " + fontPx);
                      local laf = Content.createLocalLookAndFeel();
                      laf.setInlineStyleSheet("
                          
                      #controller
                      {
                          display:flex;
                          flex-wrap:nowrap;
                          align-items:center;
                          width:100%;
                          padding:0;
                          gap: 2px;
                          border-radius:0;
                          background:#333;
                          overflow:hidden;
                      }
                      
                      .control-button
                      {
                          display:none;
                      }
              
                      .dragger
                      {
                          display:block;
                          flex:0 0 " + wPct + "%;
                          width:" + wPct + "%;
                          height:100%;
                          min-width:0;
                          box-sizing:border-box;
                          white-space:nowrap;
                          overflow:hidden;
                          text-overflow:ellipsis;
                          text-align:center;
                          background-color:rgba(76, 76, 76, 1);
                          opacity: 0.8;
                          font-size:" + fontPx + "px;
                      }
              
                      .dragger::before
                      {
                          content: '';	
                          background-color: white;
                          background-image: var(--dragPath);
                          width: 24px;
                          margin: 2px;
                      }
              
                      .dragger:checked
                      {
                          background-color:rgba(255, 0, 0, 1);
                          opacity: 1.0;
                      }
              
                      ");
              
                      local tile = Content.getComponent("ft_modcontroller");
                      tile.setLocalLookAndFeel(laf);
                  }
              

              This function is called at init, but is also called when I rescale my UI (which is all code that definitely works) ... but my font doesn't resize.

              The flex and width of the draggers does seem to update. So I think I'm doing the right technique???

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              • OrvillainO
                Orvillain
                last edited by

                Or maybe I'm better off making custom panels with callbacks, and doing all of the scaling stuff I want to do inside regular LAF, rather than css ??

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                • OrvillainO
                  Orvillain @Orvillain
                  last edited by

                  @Orvillain I solved my issue by making my font size a percentage of the dragger, but it was a bit weird. Everything I tried simply would not update the font size. Even doing a setStylePropertyblahblahblah call on the LAF object didn't work.

                  Musician - Instrument Designer - Sonic Architect - Creative Product Owner
                  Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                    last edited by

                    @Orvillain wait, how do you rescale your UI? Settings.setZoomFactor() should scale all fonts correctly.

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                    • OrvillainO
                      Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by Orvillain

                      @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                      @Orvillain wait, how do you rescale your UI? Settings.setZoomFactor() should scale all fonts correctly.

                      No I'm not doing that. I have a custom scaling namespace that does a bunch of math, but ultimately what it does is update the properties of any UI widge - so x, y, w, h, fontSize, etc etc.

                      This kind of thing:

                          inline function rescaleAll()
                          {
                              // Order of operations:
                              // Resize interface
                              // Re-apply panel bounds
                              // Re-apply control bounds
                              // Re-apply control style props (font, radii, etc.)
                              // Reposition zoom handle
                      
                              // Resize the window
                              Content.makeFrontInterface(SharedData.getScaledWidth(), SharedData.getScaledHeight());
                      
                              // Panels first (so parents are sized before children)
                              for (i = 0; i < _layout.length; i++)
                                  _applyScaledBounds(_layout[i]);
                      
                              // Controls: bounds then props
                              for (i = 0; i < _controls.length; i++)
                              {
                                  _applyScaledBounds(_controls[i]);
                                  _applyScaledProps(_controls[i]);
                              }
                      
                              LogicalZoom.onRescaled();
                          }
                      

                      Effectively, I'm scaling everything manually. Not using the automatic zoom factor way to do it. I don't have a reason other than coder ego!!

                      And this all works fine, but setting the font-size property in the modulation controller didn't seem to update in any of the ways I tried.

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                        last edited by

                        @Orvillain now you have another reason. Also all dialogs / other inbuilt components will not scale correctly like this.

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                        • OrvillainO
                          Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by Orvillain

                          @Christoph-Hart said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                          @Orvillain now you have another reason. Also all dialogs / other inbuilt components will not scale correctly like this.

                          Ah cool beans. Yeah that was trivial to implement in my existing code, and actually makes the whole thing a lot simpler. Sorry, I thought the whole thing was originally a bug to do with the matrix mod controller and how it processed css - hence tagging onto this thread!

                          The only slight loss is, my approach was working inside HISE directly, without having to compile the plugin in order to double check zoom/rescale performance.

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                          Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                            last edited by

                            @Orvillain You can still check this within HISE - basically the zoom factor in the interface designer does exactly that and if you want to check the actual behaviour with the zoom setting set by the user you can use a second floating tile window that you add a "Main Interface" to - this respects the zoom setting (unlike the popup interface that appears when you click on the house button).

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                            • OrvillainO
                              Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              @Christoph-Hart Good to know, cheers!!

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                              Crafting sound at every level. From strings to signal paths, samples to systems.

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                              • DanHD
                                DanH @Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart What are the modulationDrag states please?

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                                • DanHD
                                  DanH @DanH
                                  last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart I have some Macro knobs on the UI. I'm hoping to be able to modulate them with other modulators, however currentIy I can assign a Macro to itself 😆

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                                  • DanHD
                                    DanH @DanH
                                    last edited by

                                    @Christoph-Hart last one for now 😆

                                    If a modulator has a connection is there a method to display this in css / laf?

                                    Screenshot 2025-09-11 at 11.17.00.png

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                                    • ustkU
                                      ustk @DanH
                                      last edited by

                                      @DanH You just add it in the Global Mod Container

                                      Screenshot 2025-09-11 at 13.16.08.png

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                                      • ustkU
                                        ustk @DanH
                                        last edited by

                                        @DanH said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

                                        @Christoph-Hart What are the modulationDrag states please?

                                        0 -> nothing happens
                                        1 -> itemDragEnter
                                        2 -> itemDragExit

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                                        • DanHD
                                          DanH @ustk
                                          last edited by

                                          @ustk yes exactly, but we don't want Macro 1 assigned to Macro 1 do we?! 😆

                                          So perhaps there's a way to remove the Modulator from the list if you're trying to connect it to itself.

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                                          • ustkU
                                            ustk @DanH
                                            last edited by

                                            @DanH No, why would you lol. There are not in the target list if you don't assign a matrixTargetId
                                            The way I understand it is that you don't want them to be "modulatable", you just assign a macro + another modulation to the parameters, and it has the same effect

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