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    • Oli UllmannO
      Oli Ullmann
      last edited by

      Hello everyone :-)

      If I have a very simple setup consisting of a waveform generator within a synthesizer group with an AHDSR envelope and set the attack to 0ms and the release to 1ms, I get a click/pop sound at the beginning and at the end when I press a note.

      Is there a way to prevent this?

      Here is a snippet:

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      Thanks a lot
      Oli

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Oli Ullmann
        last edited by

        @Oli-Ullmann said in Click and pop sounds:

        Is there a way to prevent this?

        Longer attack/release time

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @d.healey
          last edited by

          The synth group randomizes the phase so that would create a click at the beginning. the release time is too short so that's the second click.

          I need to check but I thought the synthgroup only randomizes the start offset with unisono values > 1 though.

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          • Oli UllmannO
            Oli Ullmann @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            @Christoph-Hart
            In fact, I also hear a click when I load only a waveform generator. The click at the end disappears with a longer release.

            With a very short attack, it almost sounds like a sinewave basedrum.

            Here is the snippet without the synthesizer group:

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @Oli Ullmann
              last edited by

              @Oli-Ullmann nope, that looks exactly like what you'd expect without any attack time:

              489d5b66-dae2-4206-9dec-46f43afd4c01-image.png

              As you can see it starts from zero, but there's a discontinuity in the first derivative which you perceive as click.

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              • Oli UllmannO
                Oli Ullmann @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart
                All right. Thanks for the explanation! :-)

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