Floating Tile - loadFile option

[d.healey]

@Lindon What would be the purpose of such a thing, other than for the authorisation system?

[Lindon]

@d-healey Well I already use a similar system in Kontakt for these things:

1. To allow the user to select the sound (by category) - some of our instruments have 1,000 groups/sounds in them - this system allows me to categorise these - and have subcategories, and then list sounds within sub-categories... (a lot like the preset system in HISE). So in this scenario I'd create a set of folders/directories in AppData and a set of JSON files in the lowest level folder that just contain the name of a SampleMap.

So: run the Floating Tile, get a file back - read which SampleMap to load

2. We also have a quad-loop player coming that is based on our (now very old) single loop player. In it the loop playback plays 32 "slices" of the loop according to some pre-defined pattern, and there are a LOT of available patterns. So again I'd like to define a set of Pattern Categories, sub-categories and have the patterns (themselves an array of numbers) stored in a series of JSON files.

So: run the FloatingTile get a JSON file - read the JSON file for the pattern to play.

In instances where I use JSON files for BOTH these I can put some sort of header in the files to decide if the user has selected the correct "type" of JSON file.

Oh and I cant see how it would get used in any Authorisation process, it has a single file to find that either has the right number in it or not.

[d.healey]

@Lindon
1: Why not just use the existing preset system? I do this and load in different sample maps based on the selected preset in all of the instrument projects I've made with HISE.
2: You can already do this internally, the user wouldn't need to select a json file, they could just select the pattern from a menu or preset system and the script will load the correct json. This is pretty much what I do to load all of my settings for the various instruments in my woodwind library, although probably not close to the number of values you'll be using. I store all of my settings in a single JSON I call the manifest within its own namespace.

[Lindon]

@d-healey Sorry mate but I think you are missing the point.

1. In a two voice synth ROMpler - the user needs to select sounds to load into a "voice" - we have 1000 sounds. They can combine any two "sounds" from the 1,000 available. Loading a Preset would load BOTH voices with something I selected. Loading Presets is for, well , loading presets. This is for end-user sound design.

2. Yes I can have a menu that does this - I can make a menu for either of these scenarios - but again its a menu of a bald 1,000 element list - with no categorisation, favourites, etc.

[Lindon]

Here's an example: Key-Tone - e keys/piano ROMpler

--See how there are two voices? Currently loaded are voices called "CP-80" and "Zinc Oxide"

Click on "CP-80" and the browser opens:

See how this is showing categories/sub-categories and contained sound sources for to load into Voice 1?
Its this thing the "voice browser" I'm trying to get to - but using a more generic and I hope useful FloatingTile option called LoadJSON.

[orange]

@Lindon Good idea. Something like Omnisphere or similar stuff. If you load 2 same sounds, how will you handle the phasing problem? Sample start modulation?

[Lindon]

@orange We DONT handle the phasing - if you load two copies of the same sound source you get phasing - your call.

[orange]

@Lindon Yes it would create phase issue. But it can be handled with altered round robin (if it has). So for example; when the first sound source plays a thirth round robin sample, second source should play a different round robin sample.

Maybe for synthetic sounds it is not necessary (only sample start modulation can be used), but for real acoustic instrument samples it should have ;)

[Lindon]

@orange We dont do "classic" round-robin either - we use our IRRE (infinite round robin engine) . To be frank if user is using the same sound source in both voices they are really really missing the point of the instrument.

[d.healey]

@Lindon

IRRE (infinite round robin engine)

I'm intrigued... is this sample borrowing and pitch shifting?

[Jay]

@Lindon I did this using 2 menus loading the samplemaps

[Christoph Hart]

Why don't you use a viewport? I am doing this in HEXERACT to categorize the sounds.

[Lindon]

@Christoph-Hart can you give me an example?

[Lindon]

@d-healey nope - its pitch, time and eq-shifting

[Christoph Hart]

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[d.healey]

@Lindon

nope - its pitch, time and eq-shifting

As in start offset or delay?

[Lindon]

@d-healey both

[Lindon]

@Christoph-Hart said in Floating Tile - loadFile option:

Yeah - sort of.... but no nice favourites processing and only two columns - as I said I could build my own and it would likely use a viewport or two, but then... see my first post here..