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    • orange
      orange last edited by orange

      Hi guys
      For the developers who use wordpress web sites; I've found this woocommerce plugin for the serial protection system ;

      https://codecanyon.net/item/woocommerce-license-manager/16636748

      it allows you to upload the bulk serials in .txt format for each product. And it gives the serial number that you've provided, to the customer, right after the purchase.

      I think it can be integrated with Christoph's simple copy protection system.

      Anyone uses that, or any suggestions, ideas?

      develop Branch / XCode 13.1
      macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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      • Lindon
        Lindon @orange last edited by

        @orange wow $59.00 for WP plugin...

        HISE Development for hire.
        www.channelrobot.com

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        • Dan Korneff
          Dan Korneff last edited by

          You can also use SendOwl

          https://help.sendowl.com/help/adding-a-software-product

          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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          • Lindon
            Lindon last edited by

            Hmm, never heard of SendOwl - nice.

            OK - some quick comments that hopefully might set context for those of us only starting out on this selling audio products malarky., and may set/adjust a few expectations. I will at some point try and mention HISE in all this...

            First there are a whole load of distributor web sites out there where you can sell your products - it's an intensive business and takes a lot of effort to be successful., and this is reflected in the margin charged. If you sell non-exclusively (thru multiple stores) then you will generally get 60% of sales (yes they keep 40%), exclusive (on one site only) and your share may well go up to 70%. Some sites roll the transaction fees in there some add these on top.

            So I think a HISE-focused shop would be a good thing, but it would be non-viable to suggest only 5-10% of revenue went to Christoph(the shop owner-manager). If Christoph set up a "shop" as he suggests he is thinking about, then I would expect him to charge the same sorts of margin as everyone else.(30-40%), and all of this has nothing to do with the licensing each of us will need to pay Christoph to sell HISE-based products commercially, through whatever channel(s) we have available.

            The only thing I would ask Christoph to consider when deciding on the model for this licensing arrangement is that most of the time we the "sellers" are getting (usually ) only 60% of retail - and retail might be "50% off sale" prices...so it can be quite "small-beer"

            HISE Development for hire.
            www.channelrobot.com

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              Stroggan last edited by

              Do you really think it is okay to take up to 40% for what is almost passive income by the distributor?

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              • orange
                orange @Stroggan last edited by orange

                @Stroggan Most of the distributors asks approx %40. + If you don't have a license tracking system, (if you only give serial numbers to the distributor) you can't know if a serial sold several times.

                develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                  Stroggan @orange last edited by

                  @orange I don't care about what most distrubutors do as that number is pure greed. And I personally don't care about licenses with my own libraries. I'm just wondering if @Lindon actually believes that revenue split is fair or not.

                  Why would 5-10% or less not be viable?

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                  • Lindon
                    Lindon @Stroggan last edited by

                    @Stroggan In the end my opinion about this matters not a jot. It definitely not passive income however. They are doing graphics, audio demos, social media work all to increase traffic to their sites. Most of the big vendors have 200k+ subscribers - if you think you can get that many then feel free to enter the market, and charge me 5% - I will sign up in a heartbeat.

                    HISE Development for hire.
                    www.channelrobot.com

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                      Stroggan @Lindon last edited by

                      @Lindon Your opinion matters because we are talking about Christoph setting up a little niche store for HISE instruments, and I am assuming that he will not spend considerable amounts of time and money to market every single product on the store constantly and in perpetuity.

                      I just hope that we can be a little progressive here and not artificially inflate the prices of our products for no other reason than "they do it".

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                      • Christoph Hart
                        Christoph Hart last edited by

                        The current plan for the "HISE store" is a affilitate link setup which will charge a certain percentage amount when the customer buys your product through this link. This will be in the range of 20%-30%, which is the standard for distributor cuts, but again, just applies when people buy through the link (which assumes that I did the marketing for this conversion).

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                        • staiff
                          staiff last edited by

                          Yes.
                          The 5/10% I wrote it. but it was only an example. The other sites recover 30 to 40% "without doing anything" of what you say; But Christoph - he - creates, develops and updates HISE all the time. He deserves these percentages.

                          PS: beyond 40%, I think that in return we can ask for a picture of Christoph in Spider-man, or naked Christoph ... 😨 😰 🙄

                          ok, I go out ...:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

                          Excuse me i'm French.

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                          • Christoph Hart
                            Christoph Hart last edited by

                            Well this is me dressed as mermaid from a theatre production a few years back:

                            https://goo.gl/images/8zsaSW

                            Can I have 50% now?

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                            • Dominik Mayer
                              Dominik Mayer last edited by

                              Lol,

                              still waiting for a "Christoph Harp" instrument, btw..

                              greets,
                              d

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                              • orange
                                orange @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart Ahhahah, it was good 😉 🙂 Yes you deserve it all the time, without this picture 🙂

                                develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                                macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                                • staiff
                                  staiff @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart

                                  70 % !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😄 😄 😄 😄

                                  Excuse me i'm French.

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                                  • ossian1961
                                    ossian1961 @Christoph Hart last edited by

                                    @Christoph-Hart It's like to see a fusion between the fisherman and the mermaid in the Frederic Leighton's painting 😛 493px-Leighton-The_Fisherman_and_the_Syren-c._1856-1858.jpg

                                    https://www.kontakthub.com/label/Imagik-Sound/
                                    https://mirtklaar.bandcamp.com/

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