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    • MorphoiceM
      Morphoice @griffinboy
      last edited by

      @griffinboy Screenshot 2024-10-26 at 17.54.51.png Screenshot 2024-10-26 at 18.00.56.png

      https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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      • griffinboyG
        griffinboy @Morphoice
        last edited by

        @Morphoice

        Mmmmm, are you on mac or windows?
        I've only ever done it on windows.

        Have you tried exporting a simpler network to see if it's just your faust node at fault?

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        • MorphoiceM
          Morphoice @griffinboy
          last edited by

          @griffinboy it works with sompler ones, however it works too if I completely scrap the faust node and rebuild it from scratch with the very same parameters.... ;-/ for now

          https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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          • MorphoiceM
            Morphoice @griffinboy
            last edited by Morphoice

            @griffinboy no luck today. after it finally compiled fine, it crashed the DAW. I give up.
            All it was was a simple faust demo reverb and 3 knobs to control it. I can't even do that lol

            https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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            • griffinboyG
              griffinboy @Morphoice
              last edited by

              @Morphoice

              I'm sorry but I don't use FAUST at all, it's not within my area of expertise
              : /

              If the compilation works for simple nodes, then it's very likely an issue with the faust node.
              Maybe a new forum post, that includes details about how you've set up the node?
              Others who have done it before may spot what is wrong.

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              • DanHD
                DanH @Morphoice
                last edited by

                @Morphoice so you have the faust scriptnode fx in a Hardcoded FX module? i.e you have successfully compiled the network as a .dll?

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                • Matt_SFM
                  Matt_SF @Morphoice
                  last edited by

                  @Morphoice can you share a simple snippet of your project?

                  Develop branch
                  Win10 & VS17 / Ventura & Xcode 14. 3

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                  • MorphoiceM
                    Morphoice @Matt_SF
                    last edited by

                    @Matt_SF

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                    • Matt_SFM
                      Matt_SF @Morphoice
                      last edited by

                      @Morphoice I don't see anything weird at first sight... But I can't test the compilation, the faust code is not included in the snippet. Can you tell me which faust fx demo you used for the delay and reverb ?

                      Develop branch
                      Win10 & VS17 / Ventura & Xcode 14. 3

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                      • HISEnbergH
                        HISEnberg @Matt_SF
                        last edited by

                        @Matt_SF The faust effect is in the snippet but it isn't compiling for me either, so I think that is where the issue lies.

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                        • HISEnbergH
                          HISEnberg @Morphoice
                          last edited by

                          @Morphoice I wouldn't stress too much, it would appear that somewhere along the way your FX network has been corrupted. Did you at any point change the name of a parameter or the network itself? Perhaps even hit the space bar when naming one of the parameters? These are all things that could break the network.

                          Another issue is that I don't think HISE really cleans all of the FX locations when you use that feature, there are some files stashed elsewhere that can cause issues. Here is what I recommend.

                          Start a new project. Yes it is annoying but you generally want to start from the FX before doing anything else in your project, like setting up the UI or creating presets.

                          Load each faust network in 1 at a time (depending how many you have, build the scriptnode network, and compile. I did this with the files you provided me and they are compiling fine now.

                          When naming parameters, stick to Camel Case (so only letters from the alphabet). A good habit is to name them knbParamterName. Don't rename your fx network after you make it (you can do this once you know how to edit the xml data, but it will cause issues otherwise), and don't use any spaces or special characters.

                          Here is a snippet with both the FX you are using. These should compile correctly, so feel free to reattach the connections you were using previously. Yes it is a pain but you will probably loose less time and sleep trying to rebuild from scratch then figuring out what went wrong in this situation.

                          Another useful trick is to copy range to source. Double click on the parameter, then right click it like in the GIF below. This will set your macro control to have the same range.

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                          • MorphoiceM
                            Morphoice @HISEnberg
                            last edited by

                            @HISEnberg thanks I'll retry from scratch paying attention to the things you mentioned... seems this is much more fragile than I expected it to be

                            https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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                            • HISEnbergH
                              HISEnberg @Morphoice
                              last edited by

                              @Morphoice It really just takes time, head banging and asking the forum. These issues are not well documented and it is difficult to know where any issue lies. Generally, searching/asking on the forum is the quickest and most painless way to resolve these issues.

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                              • MorphoiceM
                                Morphoice @HISEnberg
                                last edited by

                                @HISEnberg Ireally appreciate this forum, I just feel like going onto peoples nerves..

                                I'm building everything carefully up from scratch now

                                The copy parameters to source doesn't work though, I still get this mismatch which seems odd since the values are the same just more decimals

                                Screenshot 2024-10-27 at 13.31.52.jpg

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                                • HISEnbergH
                                  HISEnberg @Morphoice
                                  last edited by

                                  @Morphoice Yes, Faust can operate on more floating point values then HISE. It doesn't matter, it shouldn't effect the compilation process, you can just ignore those.

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                                  • MorphoiceM
                                    Morphoice @Morphoice
                                    last edited by

                                    @Morphoice I should mention I'm using a dryWet slider connected to two nodes, though the min max values are the same, I cannot get rid of the warning sign next to the knob. Can this already be a cause of some issues?

                                    Screenshot 2024-10-27 at 13.33.59.jpg

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                                    • MorphoiceM
                                      Morphoice @HISEnberg
                                      last edited by

                                      @HISEnberg I remember seeing something about parameters outside some range in a cubase crash log yesterday, hence my suspicion. I can't find it again though and the project has changed a lot and not compiled ever since.

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                                      • HISEnbergH
                                        HISEnberg @Morphoice
                                        last edited by

                                        @Morphoice Nope it should be fine. You can test this by saving and compiling it as is. Sometimes this will lead to issues with the parameter not working, but it should build fine.

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                                        • MorphoiceM
                                          Morphoice @HISEnberg
                                          last edited by

                                          @HISEnberg so building everything from scratch with nothin in it but the faust nodes working fine in HISE does compile and build
                                          but upon loading the vst3 into a cubase track as an effect it immediately crashes, same as it's been doing on all my attempts over the past 2 days....

                                          I didnt rename or change a thing, I built it from scratch, and it's as simple as it gets

                                          Screenshot 2024-10-27 at 13.49.46.jpg

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                                          https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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                                          • orangeO
                                            orange @Morphoice
                                            last edited by

                                            @Morphoice The current Hise commits have issues, custom nodes can't be exported too.

                                            If the Hise build you are using is current, have you tried an older version (1 month ago)?

                                            develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                                            macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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