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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @d.healey
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      @d-healey Have you set one shot to true?

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart No, playback is set to Normal

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @d.healey
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          @d-healey snippet time.

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart @Christoph Hart
            last edited by Christoph Hart

            @Christoph-Hart Does this work?

            HiseSnippet 1404.3ocyX8rTaaDFeElMM3lloISNzC8fNR5jRsv1XxjoSLXrCzfAOVjL4lmEoU3cPZWMqVQhalL8ZdK5qPeD56PeD5wdIuAseqj.IY7jXbojxAPe+S6O88+kARgCMJRHQFUOZRHEYbGr8DtZbmwDFGs2NHi6h6ShTToYJqsmDRhhntHCiJOSyvXkkQI+7gmtMwmvcn4rPnWJXNz8YALUN2AseNy2uGwkdDKnf1MZumif2Q3KhA7TAWCERbNkbB8.hVskvncIQiQFeG9wMaZQb8Z4YU25wG654Pq2p1FMZsNo4lddspY0ntaKuF.HuUWWlRHsUDEMBdoaKbmXOV7Zd5A7RVD6XeplvBYCmbJaTmwLe2Am6bhPHC7fbWUkTW0Cv8YtrK3m6x95DAl4VTzoYrzGCRVWAHYT.RKmBo6gscjrPUtDMd9R7dbHB5QfXSQnjpKx3OwcDfBb0ZAjSo8j.wEFr5F0p8HS3WO7IUq1i4Ssm.YCAq4KHtceCIHzmtE79TQqpUvKl6nXBtofefPQOju5Cq91pqT8cUMmVjm2LkoQhT36SkyTrNiQ9wLbUdbvwT4iLOi3GSuPQvCU1seq4ys6j5XJnnfuGmoNLjlQ2S36pcm5mubPBk4Ygmdwd6PTDcbKiGnWHUpXZ3XrC8LnRIMJtBdGZzoJQHTqboPLjbIbi8IpxYb5ZwLAf+nTXVGK4QL0jh0pWgzvZezzv4Eh2COfobFOaLtzLvH3o9u.iYEueEtqmG0QkCvkw8d0hVoV6JWoVMqRENS8gemLRyduxZl0nuGmmrGJogDI8Hw.exjUiRJBGBX7QlG6KbN0l8yzKWgDlBgs0ZrpyXBmS8iVjBI70T+KzPQrhwOoOQIYuAduGDGXCs9cncxPGvyXIcMTJcMMsNuvlxcSH9a3mLgVZZiLgVmK7Zr76aSEdersRRIA.vsSb7osXgvYJk00wDxv4dB4.IU2IVGxyU62aucLjbKKy82ZmbTaEHh4kNqLjOjFRIJn9rfM2t8vgOSJhCm1pO7zjp4ijvDZvUTTvgbJjNnJ9M1QJhh7fOmj2UTQQChkmn8U4bFROiJiJyCRMJlTniyuHhpSAYNmm+jqcxoT6HRRZHr1PBs0TzqOEc8onaLEcyon2XJ5V4zSWhLmyZ5SBGPfOwBZtMKKKCjkxobe9BpNi1N25yvNKWOCK9LNOqTy5UNGi1LcTnK+LnbC3nw38g1DdjXe04bKW52WvEgiEblS4jaHY8jSnxhXelePaoTPsUNmGzdH0mRhxqNe+ezdeFmRjkqYuR9hq9JlyLd8M3T3Zp6WY9uIts77E29DacccrSRk4Zmjqc79YX+j40cc2rgblvIJU+ObGy6fSZEapmbdSBuahMYNekMcUY1yIKzXTgx0SdRVi1Glc5WLcMBVDPCIXpDJcQw.8jDr1asBNfHYAGSPSMjW+w2m4LP.dLnnP6ZvOAYSNil1ooBd8BizIAAjRtUizCBJuFJz6ArLdiln8EOmNI64cYYO2xB3+RMhScG6xxH9EsSMETY2xBt4Y5+FfeD+1ACO7m514nQ8Nb+c5N7c8S+J9gr+NZLSM5v3r9ri5UeT.0cTMq0dM4LzNwg9LGHdqyJ1W7ZpDNQgCjY7pjjljH7ABY.wGVdJqf8EggyTO6K17FY7E3FMrpACwg199L0X39svsh0N45MpuQyFMtPx9T9IpwHiaiWud8FsVG1.zOV+ksL962rvYOfRNUe28lMVqUyVVVahxF.jV8Ado+5Wugx8BHNRwHmzKFny.ucBGvKvShIqf6qoMsPIWVnXBX.rUwHGmxupKY35Kpg0WTCarnF1bQMbiE0vVKpga9oMTuz2VwJQP53ODp+ftosUL5dQakJn+A.7DcGl
            

            Note that you need the example assets from the snippet browser (Tip of the day: this is a neat way of checking things with a generic samplemap).

            EDIT: You have to load it twice. The first time the samplemap cannot be found because it's loaded before the asset manager is initialised from the script. UX powerhouse!

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @Christoph Hart
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              @Christoph-Hart It tells me it can't find the monolith. I have downloaded the assets - well I think I have, where are they downloaded to? I notice the downloader seems to glitch out at the extraction phase so maybe something went wrong.

              Peek 2024-10-02 14-49.gif

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey
                last edited by d.healey

                Ah I just reminded myself of the snippet browser docs, seems the assets are in my snippets folder. But the snippet you posted is failing to find the monolith.

                Seems like it's looking in a "My first project" path which isn't where my snippets are stored.

                2359d6de-5db6-401e-b44f-6242f4b5371c-image.png

                I've copied the files over manually and now the snippet loads, and the release trigger works as expected. Do I have to compress my samples to a monolith in order for the release start to work?

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey no, it should work in all configurations (I haven‘t explicitely tested multimics but there shouldn‘t be a problem).

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart I'm using multi-mics, I'll do some more tests and see what I can find

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      @Christoph-Hart It works with a single mic, but multi-mic seems to break it.

                      marimba.zip

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey
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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey
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                          Bump bump

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @d.healey
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey Fixed now, I just forgot to add the code for the multimic sample voices.

                            But nice of you to upload marimba samples that are processed by the

                            Waveshaper OF DEATH

                            I almost blew my ears the first time :)

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by d.healey

                              @Christoph-Hart said in New feature: Release Start:

                              Waveshaper OF DEATH

                              Ooops :) It's actually the the natural sound, it's a really cool instrument with buzzing membranes in each resonator.

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                                Orvillain @Christoph Hart
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                                @Christoph-Hart said in New feature: Release Start:

                                Waveshaper OF DEATH

                                :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                                • SimonS
                                  Simon
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                                  What would be the best way to temporarily disable the behavior on a per-event basis? When scripting legato, you sometimes want the sustain to go to a release sample, sometimes to a legato sample.

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey @Simon
                                    last edited by

                                    @Simon I've discussed the same issue with Christoph and I believe he is working on a solution but for now use a separate sampler for releases - actually there are a few advantages to this so I'll probably keep on doing it this way for most of my libraries.

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                                    • gorangroovesG
                                      gorangrooves
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                                      Stopping by to say hi! It's been a while.

                                      @Christoph-Hart I'd like to point out one crucial detail regarding release notes, which I tackled in my software with the hi-hat open/closed release notes.

                                      It is not enough to just have a release note for a sample. For the playback to sound natural, the gain of the release sample must match that of the main portion of the sample at the moment when a note is released.
                                      So, if you release a note when the peak is at -15db, the release note gain should not be the same as when you release the note with a peak at -30db.

                                      When I say that "it should match," I do not mean necessarily that the release note must be played at the same gain value as the main sample when released (eg. -15db sample peak with -15db peak of release note). I think that the overall balance (main sample/ vs release) needs to be adjusted by ear, as I have done, but a simple formula can get a good ratio between main sample and release note. Adjustment by ear is to get an overall loudness of all release notes in the sampler.

                                      When done properly, any released note sounds natural.

                                      Goran Rista
                                      https://gorangrooves.com

                                      Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                                      https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                                      • SimonS
                                        Simon
                                        last edited by

                                        Read the link, Release Start already includes exactly what you're describing!

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                                        • gorangroovesG
                                          gorangrooves @Simon
                                          last edited by

                                          @Simon oh, sweet! Thank you for that. Then, the feature is truly wonderful 😃

                                          Goran Rista
                                          https://gorangrooves.com

                                          Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                                          https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @Orvillain
                                            last edited by d.healey

                                            If I play a note and release quickly I get a kind of pop sound as the release is triggered. I've tried various start options and adjusting the gain envelope but it doesn't seem to change it.

                                            Also, is there a way to toggle the releases feature on/off? I'm thinking some users prefer to disable release triggers.

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