The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm
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@Christoph-Hart said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:
@d-healey said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:
Will the new system come with documentation?
Sure if I crank that bad boy out without docs, Lindon will book the next plane to Europe and kill me.
I beg your pardon? Im already in Europe.......tho I will give you its a little island floating off to one side full of people who a snooty about other europeans....
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@Christoph-Hart said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:
Sampler.setSortByRRGroup().
Also never used it,,so bye bye sorry I never got to know you....did you have good documentation???? Ironic if so...
Sampler.setMultiGroupIndex() / Sampler.setMultiGroupIndexForEventId(),
Als never went near these bad boys...tho clearly I was planning on doing so if this brand new good looking option hadn't a turned up...
setRRGroupVolume()
Really? never even knew it....
Sampler.enableRoundRobin() / Sampler.setActiveGroup()
OK now we are in business....I used these a lot in a project - that (ironically) Im currently updating for release, so I'm assuming these will still work in the new world? If not Im stuck back on an old version of HISE and wont be able to give much feedback on all these nice new toys - or even their lack of documentation, <-- so theres that in its favour....
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@Lindon huh, I vaguely remember you talked about living in Australia in the podcast with David at some point or did I get that completely wrong?
so I'm assuming these will still work in the new world?
yup as I said, I will probably not remove those for exact this reason.
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Happy to help with writing docs :)
Sampler.enableRoundRobin() / Sampler.setActiveGroup()
This is the only one that seems concerning to me. Being able to dump multiple sets of samples into the RR groups and switch between them in the script seems like a very useful, low barrier to entry to creating more complex instruments.
Of course it depends how complicated it is to set up this new... whatever you're calling it. Looking forward to that github notification.
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@Christoph-Hart said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:
@Lindon huh, I vaguely remember you talked about living in Australia in the podcast with David at some point or did I get that completely wrong?
nope you are completely right - but I moved back to the UK 10 years ago....and have been complaining about the cold ever since....
so I'm assuming these will still work in the new world?
yup as I said, I will probably not remove those for exact this reason.
Then Im all good for a go - where's that big green button that needs pressing?
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Being able to dump multiple sets of samples into the RR groups and switch between them in the script seems like a very useful
That will of course still be the case with the new system.
- Dump your samples in there
- Create a custom layer.
- Assign the samples to indexes within this custom layer (either by manually selecting parts of them and assign it to a certain group or by using the inbuilt file token parser if the file naming scheme is consistent).
- Call
Sampler.setLayerFilter(MY_CUSTOM_LAYER, 4)to play only the samples that you have assigned to the 4th group within that layer.
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Then Im all good for a go - where's that big green button that needs pressing?
Haha, that's literally the UX at the moment:
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@Christoph-Hart Improvements > backwards-compatibility.
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@Christoph-Hart Once this is complete perhaps we could arrange a meetup and you could walk us through it?
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@d-healey yup good idea.
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Very first impressions just taking a look at it:
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@aaronventure said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:
just taking a look at it:
Isn't that just the regular sampler table in your image?
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@d-healey Is it? I can't remember. I just saw this under the Sample Editor in the new commits and thought it was new.
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@d-healey well, damn
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@aaronventure the table is updated to show the new logic layers that you define.
The real change is in the complex group manager tab (which is part of the updated UI layout once you reset your workspace).
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@Christoph-Hart I'm not seeing it
Edit: Ah I think I need to build with some newer commits, but that webview stuff is still enabled and giving me build errors.
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@Christoph-Hart I've just been attempting to open some of my older projects in the latest develop build of HISE.
Any projects that are using Group Xfade immediately segfault when I play a note. I believe this is probably related to the new sample mapping stuff.
Here's the stack trace.
Group index is -1, might be the issue
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If I move
group += 1from line 1551 to line 1558 it seems to solve the issue - not sure if this is correct though?
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This all sounds quite exciting, but I also don't really get it right now.
All I would say is, I find the system of disabling disabling RR's with enable.RoiundRobin(false) and then writing custom RR logic and using setActiveGroup(int) to be very intuitive.
I don't entirely agree that "improvements" are always better than backwards compatibility - especially if intuitiveness is affected.
