Sample not triggered if MIDI overlaps

[Dan Korneff]

I'm encountering a situation where my sampler won't trigger the 2nd sample if midi notes are overlapped. For example, programming a flam on a drum, it will only trigger the 1st sample. If the midi notes do not touch or overlap, all is fine.
Here are my sampler settings:

[d.healey]

@dustbro What are the voice settings?

[Christoph Hart]

A midi file or screenshot of the piano roll would be helpful. There might be something confusing the order of the voice sorting so it kills the current one instead of the one before the last one.

[Dan Korneff]

Here's what I'm seeing.

Overlapping midi =

Separate midi =

Here are the sampler settings

[Christoph Hart]

Ah I see, and if you change the retrigger mode to something else (the least restrictive is "Do nothing"), the problem goes away?

[Dan Korneff]

@christoph-hart I'll check asap

[Dan Korneff]

@christoph-hart None of the sampler Retrigger modes solve the issue.

[d.healey]

Any scripting?

[Dan Korneff]

@d-healey no scripting

[d.healey]

Make the simplest version of your project you possibly can that has this issue and upload it so we can test it and find the cause. Remove anything from the project that is not necessary.

[Dan Korneff]

Here's a stripped down version:
https://we.tl/t-KI4rINU36y

Just a single sample mapped to C1

Create midi notes that overlap like the pic above, and it will only trigger the first sample.

[d.healey]

I like the choice of sample ;)

I built it as a VSTi plugin and had no issues with overlap. Did you try adding an interface?

[Dan Korneff]

@d-healey interesting. Which daw? I'm going to post some videos today.
I didn't add an interface to this test, but my other samples had interfaces.
Thanks for checking it out

[Dan Korneff]

@d-healey @Christoph-Hart
https://youtu.be/yh-XXllG3ew
Here's a video

[d.healey]

@dustbro I used Reaper too, but I don't have the plugin version of HISE so I just exported your demo project to a VSTi and tested that. Can you do the same and see if the problem is still there?

What version of HISE are you using?

[Dan Korneff]

@d-healey Exported VSTi has the same result
https://youtu.be/nxSNOx3_3VM

I'm using HISE 2.0

[Christoph Hart]

Hmm, I can't replicate this in either Reaper or Cubase - overlapping notes still are triggered here.

[Dan Korneff]

@christoph-hart @d-healey
I appreciate you guys looking into this. I'm not really sure where to look next to solve this issue. It's happening on my MAC and PC, as well as 6 other users computers I use for beta testing.

I just compiled the latest version on a completely new system and I can't even get the sampler to play. Sine generator works fine. Check out this video... got me scratching my head. It doesn't appear the be a plugin vs. standalone issues either. It happens on both.
https://youtu.be/_uxAoG9o8xI

would you guys mind uploading your test vsti so I can check here?

[Dan Korneff]

@Christoph-Hart I'm also noticing some sampler inconsistencies when printing audio from the vsti (as well as using the freeze function in Cubase)
check this out:
https://youtu.be/OgGNEWWKaOs

[d.healey]

@dustbro said in Sample not triggered if MIDI overlaps:

would you guys mind uploading your test vsti so I can check here?

Mine is GNU/Linux so I don't think it will be much use to you