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    • Dan KorneffD
      Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
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      @christoph-hart None of the sampler Retrigger modes solve the issue.

      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey
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        Any scripting?

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        • Dan KorneffD
          Dan Korneff @d.healey
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          @d-healey no scripting

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey
            last edited by d.healey

            Make the simplest version of your project you possibly can that has this issue and upload it so we can test it and find the cause. Remove anything from the project that is not necessary.

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            • Dan KorneffD
              Dan Korneff
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              Here's a stripped down version:
              https://we.tl/t-KI4rINU36y

              Just a single sample mapped to C1

              Create midi notes that overlap like the pic above, and it will only trigger the first sample.

              Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey
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                I like the choice of sample ;)

                I built it as a VSTi plugin and had no issues with overlap. Did you try adding an interface?

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                • Dan KorneffD
                  Dan Korneff @d.healey
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                  @d-healey interesting. Which daw? I'm going to post some videos today.
                  I didn't add an interface to this test, but my other samples had interfaces.
                  Thanks for checking it out

                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                  • Dan KorneffD
                    Dan Korneff
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                    @d-healey @Christoph-Hart
                    https://youtu.be/yh-XXllG3ew
                    Here's a video

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @Dan Korneff
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                      @dustbro I used Reaper too, but I don't have the plugin version of HISE so I just exported your demo project to a VSTi and tested that. Can you do the same and see if the problem is still there?

                      What version of HISE are you using?

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                      • Dan KorneffD
                        Dan Korneff @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey Exported VSTi has the same result
                        https://youtu.be/nxSNOx3_3VM

                        I'm using HISE 2.0
                        0_1543934222182_Screen Shot 2018-12-04 at 9.18.14 AM.png

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                        • Christoph HartC
                          Christoph Hart
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                          Hmm, I can't replicate this in either Reaper or Cubase - overlapping notes still are triggered here.

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                          • Dan KorneffD
                            Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
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                            @christoph-hart @d-healey
                            I appreciate you guys looking into this. I'm not really sure where to look next to solve this issue. It's happening on my MAC and PC, as well as 6 other users computers I use for beta testing.

                            I just compiled the latest version on a completely new system and I can't even get the sampler to play. Sine generator works fine. Check out this video... got me scratching my head. It doesn't appear the be a plugin vs. standalone issues either. It happens on both.
                            https://youtu.be/_uxAoG9o8xI

                            would you guys mind uploading your test vsti so I can check here?

                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                            • Dan KorneffD
                              Dan Korneff
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                              @Christoph-Hart I'm also noticing some sampler inconsistencies when printing audio from the vsti (as well as using the freeze function in Cubase)
                              check this out:
                              https://youtu.be/OgGNEWWKaOs
                              0_1543957931793_CUT SAMPLE.png

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @Dan Korneff
                                last edited by

                                @dustbro said in Sample not triggered if MIDI overlaps:

                                would you guys mind uploading your test vsti so I can check here?

                                Mine is GNU/Linux so I don't think it will be much use to you

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                                • Dan KorneffD
                                  Dan Korneff @d.healey
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                                  @d-healey bummer! It's literally the last thing holding me up from releasing this product :(
                                  @Christoph-Hart this is going to be a closed project, by the way, so I'll be in touch soon.
                                  If there's anything else you can think of that I could do to help track this down, let me know.

                                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                  • Dan KorneffD
                                    Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                                    last edited by

                                    @christoph-hart said in Sample not triggered if MIDI overlaps:

                                    Hmm, I can't replicate this in either Reaper or Cubase - overlapping notes still are triggered here.

                                    Can you post a video so I can check it out? Does it look like I'm doing something wrong with the stuff I've already posted?

                                    Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                    • Dan KorneffD
                                      Dan Korneff
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                                      @Dominik-Mayer The embedded youtube video feature is awesome!

                                      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                      • Dan KorneffD
                                        Dan Korneff
                                        last edited by

                                        Maybe I could use a Timer to send a noteOff command directly after a noteOn is received?
                                        What would that look like? Is there an example that shows how the timer works?

                                        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @Dan Korneff
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustbro That might work but it doesn't solve the problem. This is a very strange issue. It would be good if someone else could recreate it.

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                                          • Dan KorneffD
                                            Dan Korneff @d.healey
                                            last edited by Dan Korneff

                                            @d-healey From what I've read on the JUCE forums, this behavior may be by design. Apparently, playing a 2nd note without first receiving a noteOff would result in a midi note stuck on.
                                            I believe that the first noteOff message isn't received when it gets overlapped by the next note.
                                            For instance:
                                            Note on = play 1st sample
                                            Note on = play 2nd sample
                                            note off = stop 1st sample
                                            2nd sample is now stuck on.

                                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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