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    Issue With Audio Units Validation on El Capitan 10.11.6 and Sierra 10.12.6 (iTunes 12.8.2.3)

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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @LinuxVst
      last edited by

      Christoph could probably try to contact Apple
      to let hem Know about This Problem!
      i Hope Apple will Fix This!

      I'm sure they will address a problem for an OS that is 6 years old, Apple is known for stuff like this...

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        LinuxVst @Christoph Hart
        last edited by LinuxVst

        @Christoph-Hart
        that's what i Thought!
        it is really Stupid they add this update in January this Year for users who want to sync the latest iphones but they screwed all users who are still using Logic x

        as somebody wrote on a juce forum is there a Way to unlink the CoreAudioKit.framework for audio units in the projucer
        and will this affect the Plugin?

        the other option i found is a script that is called Validate all AU's
        it works when i enable the Validate all AU's
        could you please Check it out to See if it is safe!
        Validate All AU's

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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey @LinuxVst
          last edited by d.healey

          @LinuxVst said in [Issue With Audio Units Validation on El Capitan 10.11.6

          could you please Check it out to See if it is safe!

          I wouldn't use it

          https://forum.juce.com/t/issue-with-audio-unit-on-10-11/48796/79

          I consider this a security risk because it’s brutally bypassing the auvaltool by replacing the binary with a dummy one

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            LinuxVst @d.healey
            last edited by LinuxVst

            @d-healey @Christoph-Hart
            Hi Christoph & David i really Found what the Problem is !
            it can Be Fixed easily by Apple by removing a Device Support Update from Apple Servers not Really Meant for El Capitan And Sierra
            Please take the Time to Read Below!

            on El Capitan and Sierra when you install iTunes 12.8.2.3 it installs the MobileDevice.framework (988.222.1) it's Working to validate Audio Units

            iTunes 12.8.2.3 Installing valid framework.png

            the problem is that as soon you plug in an IPad with ios 12.5.5 El Capitan and Sierra will offer a new Software Update "Device Support Update" it will install MobileDevice.framework (1369.122.1.100.2) probably for Monterey?
            and it is not Suitable for El Capitan or Sierra after this update it Does Not Validate Audio Units Anymore

            After Device Support Update on El Capitan and Sierra.png

            When you plug an iPad with IOS 12.5.5 on Computers with the MacOS list below
            it will not offer the Device Support Update that is installing MobileDevice.framework (1369.122.1.100.2) on El Capitan & Sierra
            So i Think this Update was Supposed to Be for Monterey? not For El Capitan or Sierra

            Sierra After Device Support Update.png

            Below are Screenshots of MacOS Versions With the MobileDevice.framework installed

            High Sierra 10.13.6 = MobileDevice.framework (988.250.11.100.2) "Audio Units Validation OK"

            High Sierra MobileDevice.png

            Mojave 10.14.6 = MobileDevice.framework (988.266.4) Audio Units Validation OK

            Mojave with ios 12.5.5.png

            Catalina 10.15.7 = MobileDevice.framework (1368.12.2) Audio Units Validation OK

            Catalina 10.15.7 with ios 12.5.5.png

            Monterey 12.4 = MobileDevice.framework (1369.121.2) Audio Units Validation OK

            Monterey 12.4 with ios 12.5.5.png

            the problem is not the iTunes 12.8.2.3 Update!

            the problem seems to be :
            Apple update Servers are sending
            the Wrong Device Support Updates that installs MobileDevice.framework (1369.122.1.100.2) on El Capitan & Sierra !

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              LinuxVst @LinuxVst
              last edited by LinuxVst

              @Christoph-Hart @d-healey
              for an update i do not think it will Happen!
              so for the users who already have the Problem i made a Small Installer with a Modified (1369.122.1.100.2) MobileDevice.framework
              it’s probably the only solution because when we are using an older Version of this framework the Apple Servers always want to Re-install the Faulty One
              so here is what i did :
              i Used a Modified (1369.122.1.100.2) MobileDevice.framework and Created an Installer!
              1: The user has to Boot in Recovery to Disable SIP
              2: then Re-Boot in El Capitan or Sierra
              3: use the Installer Package to install the Modified MobileDevice.framework
              4: Open Logic X and Re-Scan the Failed Plugins to Validate them
              5: Now the user can Re-Boot in Recovery to Re-Enable SIP
              6: Re-Boot on OS with Validated Plugins
              i Tested it on 3 different Mac Computers with El Capitan and Sierra
              and the Faulty Update does not Show up Anymore in Software Update!
              P.S.
              the user has to do this only Once!
              it Should Fix the Problem Now
              Link:
              Audio Unit Fix For El Capitan & Sierra

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                jongnaiad @LinuxVst
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                @LinuxVst
                Hi, I have the same issue with pro tools plugins AAX on pro tools 12.
                I would really appreciate if someone could resend me a valid link to the install that package to clean my El Capitan OS.

                Looks like the google drive is no longer working for that link.

                You are my last hope...
                Thank you :)
                Jon

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                  LinuxVst @jongnaiad
                  last edited by

                  @jongnaiad
                  Hi i fixed the Link
                  this Solution is only for those who are still Working Under El Capitan and Sierra
                  you have to Disable SIP to re-install the old Framework

                  this is not the perfect solution
                  apple will overwrite it it you do updates
                  so you need to re-install after Updates

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                  • bendursoB
                    bendurso @LinuxVst
                    last edited by

                    @LinuxVst Is this still the only solution to this problem? I have an user with this problem.

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                    • bendursoB
                      bendurso @bendurso
                      last edited by

                      @bendurso Someone in the JUCE forum said that removing the link to CoreAudioKit does the trick to make it work. (Ref)

                      Is it possible in Hise? How could we do that?

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @bendurso
                        last edited by d.healey

                        @bendurso said in Issue With Audio Units Validation on El Capitan 10.11.6 and Sierra 10.12.6 (iTunes 12.8.2.3):

                        @bendurso Someone in the JUCE forum said that removing the link to CoreAudioKit does the trick to make it work. (Ref)

                        Is it possible in Hise? How could we do that?

                        Did you read this thread? That's the same solution posted earlier, no?

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                        • bendursoB
                          bendurso @d.healey
                          last edited by

                          @d-healey said in Issue With Audio Units Validation on El Capitan 10.11.6 and Sierra 10.12.6 (iTunes 12.8.2.3):

                          That's the same solution posted earlier, no?

                          Mm, this thread is from 2022, and the post I mentioned about Juce is from Sep 2023. I don't know if it is still an insecure solution or if it will work.

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @bendurso
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                            @bendurso Yeah it's the same thing I think. As the poster said the previously mentioned method of implementing the solution messed up his git versioning so he came up with an alternative way of doing it. It's the same fix just a different way of applying the change. So presumably it still has the same issue.

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