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    • LindonL
      Lindon @Lindon
      last edited by

      @Lindon what format is the SDIF file?

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      • ustkU
        ustk @Lindon
        last edited by ustk

        @Lindon Don't you know what an SDIF file is, Lindon? Because... well... I don't... :)

        WikiWiki:
        "SDIF, "Sound Description Interchange Format" is a standard for the well-defined and extensible interchange of a variety of sound descriptions."

        Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @ustk
          last edited by

          @ustk its the partials analysis produced by loris analyse - essentially the sines and their envelopes that (when combined) re-generate your original audio...

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          • ustkU
            ustk @Lindon
            last edited by

            @Lindon A nice idea indeed, if it's authorised by the license

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @ustk
              last edited by

              @ustk you can also build an open source analyser app that stores the data in a format that you can define yourself so you don‘t have to come up with an SDIF parser.

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              • ustkU
                ustk @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart I just need to get the harmonics from any FFT solution so let stay simple, especially since Hise probably has everything I need at some modifications away :)

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                • hisefiloH
                  hisefilo @ustk
                  last edited by

                  @ustk https://sourceforge.net/projects/sdif/files/sdif/SDIF-3.11.4/SDIF-3.11.4-src.zip/download

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @ustk
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                    @ustk said in Haha the easter bunny has delivered.:

                    It crashes on mac with a mouseUp in the upper previewPanel so I changed this

                    Engine.playBuffer("", "", 0.0);
                    

                    into this

                    Engine.playBuffer([], "", 0.0);
                    

                    I had the same issue on Windows, thanks for the easy fix :)

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
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                      I've written a temporary method for the Save button, for those of you just as impatient as me :) :

                      const var SuffixLabel = Content.getComponent("SuffixLabel");
                      
                      inline function onSaveButtonControl(component, value)
                      {
                      	if (value)
                      	{
                      		//Grab suffix
                      
                      		local suffix = SuffixLabel.get("text");
                      		local fileName = LorisProcessor.CURRENT_FILE.toString(1);
                      		local audioFilesDirectory = FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.AudioFiles);
                      
                      		//Write buffer to audio
                      
                      		local bufferToWrite = LorisProcessor.ooo;
                      
                      		local fileToExport = audioFilesDirectory.getChildFile(fileName + "_" + suffix + ".wav");
                      
                      		local isMultiChannel = isDefined(bufferToWrite[0].length);
                      
                      		if (!isMultiChannel)
                      			fileToExport.writeAudioFile([bufferToWrite], Engine.getSampleRate(), 16);
                      		else
                      			fileToExport.writeAudioFile(bufferToWrite, Engine.getSampleRate(), 16);
                      	}
                      };
                      
                      Content.getComponent("SaveButton").setControlCallback(onSaveButtonControl);
                      
                      
                      
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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @iamlamprey yeah, go open source! Now do a realtime synthesizer next.

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey
                          last edited by

                          @iamlamprey Thanks for that!

                          @Christoph-Hart This is amazing. I've just been playing with the pitch lock and my dynamic layers crossfade perfectly without any noticeable chorusing. I didn't even make much of an attempt to line them up, I just auto-trimmed the starts and dropped in some loop points.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart said in Haha the easter bunny has delivered.:

                            Now do a realtime synthesizer next.

                            Any suggestions on optimizing the number of partials? I don't think I can do 2000 lol

                            b97359a4-b12f-4c03-9025-70ccd8efecc2-image.png

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @iamlamprey

                              @hisefilo is our additive synthesis expert I think - last time I looked at his published stuff he was using only about 8 partials to get something viable, so you could "optimise" down to this, build an additive synthesis engine to utilise these, and then keep adding partials until you are happy.

                              Of course "build an additive synthesis engine" is a 5-word description of a HUGE job...

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                              • hisefiloH
                                hisefilo @Lindon
                                last edited by hisefilo

                                @Lindon @iamlamprey LOL, not that expert but spend a lot of time dealing with partials. I think 128 harmonic partials + residual noise can create almost any sound in a credible way. (lower registries from C2 and below will need up to 256 partials but you can optimize that for each octave)

                                I haven't checked the Loris integration yet. But I guess many of the 1930 partial you have is noise turned into partials. Have you checked how many partials you see on Spear for this sound??

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  I actually have some semi-working additive nodes I made in SNEX a while back, they just didn't have working envelopes. IIRC they utilized about 40 (?) sines and waveshaping to add overtones without a noticeable CPU hit

                                  The 1930 partials seem to be the Loris algo being overly sensitive, a lot of the extracted partials are extremely close in frequency to each other:

                                  6d935e42-0ff6-4613-8b42-d1ac71672b6d-image.png

                                  These are sorted by loudness, you can see there's multiple 552.x partials, there's probably some parameter for filtering these but I'm dumb :)

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey @A Former User
                                    last edited by d.healey

                                    @iamlamprey

                                    The 1930 partials seem to be the Loris algo being overly sensitive,

                                    I assume that's why the resynthesis sounds so good. But for an additive synth it's probably overkill.

                                    This is probably what you need: http://www.cerlsoundgroup.org/Loris/docs/utils.html

                                    collate : collate the Partials to reduce their number without assuming any harmonic structure (cannot distill later!).

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @d.healey
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @d-healey Yeh I noticed that command, not sure how to use it in the HISE implementation, I tried

                                      lorisManager.process(CURRENT_FILE, "collate", ???);
                                      

                                      No idea what to use for the third parameter, or if the collate string is even viable there lol

                                      I currently have a hacky solution by just rounding the values before pushing them to the array, then using pushIfNotAlreadyThere to remove the duplicates, it works for now

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                                      • Christoph HartC
                                        Christoph Hart @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @iamlamprey I'm currently extending the Loris API to include the more advanced functions like collate, distill and sift (love the names), they do address the problem of having too many partials, but as David said, if you reduce them to a common denominator the sound gets a bit more static.

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @Christoph Hart
                                          last edited by d.healey

                                          @Christoph-Hart

                                          I'm currently extending the Loris API to include the more advanced functions like collate, distill and sift

                                          Which commands are currently available for the process function? I had a look through the source but didn't see a list.

                                          I see I can play back a buffer using Engine.playBuffer() but is there a way I can stop playback? What I want to do is allow the user to load a sample and hit a button which will resynthesise it at different pitches which are mapped to the keyboard and then they can play it back like a regular instrument.

                                          Also, can I load a buffer into a loop player or must it be saved as a real file first?

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @d.healey
                                            last edited by

                                            @d-healey said in Haha the easter bunny has delivered.:

                                            Which commands are currently available for the process function? I had a look through the source but didn't see a list.

                                            I don't think there is one, you can make your own functions with processCustom but I'm "patiently" waiting for Christoph to implement the official partial filtering methods cause my hacky ones keep crashing HISE lol

                                            I see I can play back a buffer using Engine.playBuffer() but is there a way I can stop playback?

                                            The mouseUp event in the top panel has a "stop" button by playing an empty buffer (fix by @ustk above):

                                            Engine.playBuffer([], "", 0.0);
                                            
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