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    • LindonL
      Lindon @trillbilly
      last edited by

      @trillbilly said in LAF + Sampler Functions:

      @DanH I've only saved a few demo presets but as of right now it all seems to be working as expected. I know you said "reliably", how often did it fail for you?

      EDIT: Scratch that, I see what you're saying. It saves them but does not load them correctly all the time, at least on my end.

      so this I think is probably the problem I ran into - it basically a timing issue - the sample map is not loaded instantly - so you are probably trying to set the start end values for zones not even loaded yet...and yes @DanH I ended up doing a o lot of this stuff in preset handler post callback

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      • trillbillyT
        trillbilly @Lindon
        last edited by trillbilly

        @Lindon Ahhh, that makes sense. Because if I click the same preset multiple times, the start/end values will eventually get to where they need to be.

        So doing it in the Preset Handler Post Callback, Im having some newb issues.

        Here is the code from documentation

        UserPresetHandler.setPostCallback(var presetPostCallback)
        

        Im not understanding something because I get "Unknown function 'setPostCallback'" error. Here is my jumble.

        const var samplestart = [Content.getComponent("SampleStart1"),
                                 Content.getComponent("SampleStart2"),
        		         Content.getComponent("SampleStart3"),
        			 Content.getComponent("SampleStart4")];
        
        UserPresetHandler.setPostCallback(samplestart, presetPostCallback);
        

        Am I not calling for the variable correctly? Or the right variable? These are the knobs on my UI controlling Sample Start times.

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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey @trillbilly
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          @trillbilly You need to create a user preset handler first. const uph = Engine.createUserPresetHandler() then you can call the function on that object

          uph.setPostCallback(function()
          {
          });
          

          UserPresetHandler.setPostCallback(samplestart, presetPostCallback);

          If you take a look at the documentation again you'll see the setPostCallback function only takes one parameter, you've tried passing in two which won't work.

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          • trillbillyT
            trillbilly @d.healey
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            @d-healey Ok, I get it to compile. But then when I use the function (in this case the sample start time) it then spits out the same "Uknown function 'setPostCallback" error.

            const var samplestart = [Content.getComponent("SampleStart1"),
                                     Content.getComponent("SampleStart2"),
            		         Content.getComponent("SampleStart3"),
            			 Content.getComponent("SampleStart4")];
            
            const uph = Engine.createUserPresetHandler();
            					    
            
            uph.setPostCallback(function()
            {
            	UserPresetHandler.setPostCallback(samplestart);
            
            });
            
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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @trillbilly
              last edited by d.healey

              @trillbilly It's late here so I'll give you an answer in the morning, but reread your code and look up each function you're using in the documentation in the meantime.

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              • DanHD
                DanH @Lindon
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                @Lindon Thanks :) Can I ask what you did in the post callback? I'm simply grabbing the values of the loop start/end knobs and then loading those values back into those knobs. It works sometimes and not others, leading me to suspect timing issues (poss related to sample loading time?!)

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                • trillbillyT
                  trillbilly @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey it was getting late here too. I will be back in studio in a few hours to continue going over documentation.

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                  • LindonL
                    Lindon @DanH
                    last edited by Lindon

                    @DanH - what I did was I waited.... 2 seconds works here... so on preset postcallback I did the following:

                    1. tried to set the sample start and ends...it probably wont have worked but hey - no loss to try..
                    2. Started a timer on the panel its in (clearly the UI is visible otherwise we cant have selected a preset to load..)....so essentially this:
                    Circle.sampleLoadTimer.startTimer(2000);
                    

                    in the timer... I did the following:

                    1. stopped the timer...as we only need to do this timer activity once...
                    2. reset the sample start and end times...as with luck the samples will actually now be loaded..

                    You may be using bigger(or smaller) sample sets than me (its only 12 waves) so the timing might need to be different, and I checked my timing loading from an external USB 2 drive..(very slow)

                    I am using a whole truckload of AudioWaveforms (I have 16 samplers) and I found I would need to "reset" these to show the new start and end values.. so I simply
                    call:

                    theAudioWaveForms[<someindex>].set("sampleIndex",<the zone index you want>);
                    

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                    • DanHD
                      DanH @Lindon
                      last edited by

                      @Lindon thanks, timer seems to be the way. Although does this mean that the post callback is slightly flawed, in that it should probably wait until the samples have loaded before triggering @Christoph-Hart ?

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @trillbilly
                        last edited by d.healey

                        @trillbilly said in LAF + Sampler Functions:

                        const uph = Engine.createUserPresetHandler();
                        					    
                        
                        uph.setPostCallback(function()
                        {
                        	UserPresetHandler.setPostCallback(samplestart);
                        
                        });
                        

                        Ok so UserPresetHandler is the name of a class - that's a collection of functions and variables in C++.

                        In HISE you create a variable that has the type UserPresetHandler, just like you can create a variable that has the type String or Number. Then through this variable you have access to that class's functions and variables.

                        Can you see in the code above you have called setUserPreset on the variable we created uph, that will work, because that variable is of the type UserPresetHandler. That function takes one parameter, and that parameter needs to be a callback function, exactly like you use for a paint routine or mouse callback - anytime you see a parameter with callback in the name you need to pass in a function.

                        But then you've tried to call that function again directly on the type UserPresetHandler instead of on the variable uph and this second time you've tried to pass in the samplestart array as a parameter. This of course makes no sense from a program logic point of view and won't work.

                        The callback function (which you've assigned correctly with uph.setPostCallback(function(){});) is triggered after a preset is loaded. So any action you want to perform after a preset is loaded should go in there.

                        So what do you want to do with your samplestart array after the preset is loaded?

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                        • trillbillyT
                          trillbilly @d.healey
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                          @d-healey it's all starting to make much more sense.

                          As @Lindon pointed out, the samples/maps dont load instantly, which in turn, makes it so the samplestart/end times dont load properly either. The idea is to have the SampleStart/End load AFTER the samplemap/preset is loaded so the correct location is placed.

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @trillbilly
                            last edited by d.healey

                            @trillbilly I'd have thought the loading callback would be the solution for this.

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @d.healey
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                              @d-healey said in LAF + Sampler Functions:

                              @trillbilly I'd have thought the loading callback would be the solution for this.

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                              @trillbilly - yep thats exactly what I do....

                              CirclePanel.setLoadingCallback(function(isPreloading)
                              {
                              	var postLoadZones;
                              	var postLoadStartPos;
                              	var postLoadEndPos;
                              	if(!isPreloading)
                              	{
                              		//OK so if we have just added a sound using the viewports then
                              
                              		if (loadingFromViewport)
                              		{
                              			loadingFromViewport = false;			
                              			postLoadZones = theSamplers[SamplerSelector.getValue() -1].createSelection(".*");
                              			for (k = 0; k<postLoadZones.length; k++)
                              			{
                              				postLoadZones[k].set(theSamplers[SamplerSelector.getValue() -1].SampleStart,0);
                                                             // etc. etc.
                              			}
                              
                              			
                              		};
                              
                                  }else{
                              	    Console.print("Starting to load something.....");
                              	};
                                        
                                      
                              });```

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                              • DanHD
                                DanH @Lindon
                                last edited by DanH

                                @Lindon @d-healey I thought there was a loading callback :)

                                So one unintended consequence of changing the sample map data with ui controls is that (in HISE at least, not tested in exported) my sample maps will be overwritten at some point with the new data. I'm not resaving anything in the sample editor, it somehow does it by itself...

                                I can't help but feel this approach is a bit hacky

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                                • trillbillyT
                                  trillbilly @Lindon
                                  last edited by

                                  @Lindon @d-healey man, I'm all over the place with this lol. Thanks for the script snippet. So this is what is needed in conjunction WITH the presethandler, correct?

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                                  • trillbillyT
                                    trillbilly @DanH
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                                    @DanH Uh oh, let's hope the compiled plugins have a touch of magic and just maybe don't have the issue lol

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey @trillbilly
                                      last edited by

                                      @trillbilly No, the preset handler shouldn't be required in this case.

                                      The loading callback is triggered when sample loading starts, and triggered again when sample loading ends.

                                      The preset callback is triggered when a preset is loaded. This no longer seems to be relevant for what you're trying to do because the sample map is the thing we're interested in rather than the preset.

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                                      • LindonL
                                        Lindon @trillbilly
                                        last edited by

                                        @trillbilly said in LAF + Sampler Functions:

                                        @Lindon @d-healey man, I'm all over the place with this lol. Thanks for the script snippet. So this is what is needed in conjunction WITH the presethandler, correct?

                                        it depends....

                                        If you are loading a sample and once its loaded you want to do something then yeah - just the loading callback,

                                        but if you want to save the sample positions and reapply them in each preset ... then you might need to look at the preset post callback, ....

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                                        • trillbillyT
                                          trillbilly @Lindon
                                          last edited by

                                          @Lindon Man oh man, ok.

                                          If I'm not back in a few hours, send a search party...

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                                          • trillbillyT
                                            trillbilly @d.healey
                                            last edited by

                                            @d-healey Thanks! I've been trying to comprehend everything all at once. I think I need to step back and focus on one part of this issue at a time. Yesterday still has my brain fried...

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