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    • DanHD
      DanH @A Former User
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      @UrsBollhalder If you're happy to use a LFO Custom Table as an envelope you can route it to a simple gain modulator. Its not an AHDSR but it might get the job done and is reasonably intuitive to use

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey
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        Seems to be possible with scriptnode

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          crd @d.healey
          last edited by crd

          @d-healey that envelope is mono.

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            crd @DanH
            last edited by crd

            @DanH That is also mono.

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @crd
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              @crd What do you mean? Nobody meantioned polyphonicness was required.

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                crd @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey I could be wrong but I imagine he wants the gain envelope to react per note.

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @crd
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                    crd @d.healey
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                    @d-healey I'm pretty sure there is no way to get per note modulation going in the global modulator container.

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @crd
                      last edited by

                      @crd Yep, after playing around with it I think you're are correct.

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                        crd @d.healey
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                        @d-healey I think there is a years old feature request for polyphonic LFO's which I will resurrect. Polyphonic LFO's seems to be the only thing Kontakt still has over Hise.

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @crd
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                          @crd We have polyphonic LFOs in scriptnode. https://forum.hise.audio/topic/4759/scriptnode-lfo-shape

                          In fact it was a problem I was having because I wanted each note to be in sync so I needed it to be mono (assuming I understand the terms correctly in this context).

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                            crd @d.healey
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                            @d-healey I could be wrong but I think that is monophonic with different re-trigger behaviors. Similar to the legato button on stock Hise LFO module. Polyphonic LFOs would be an individual lfo/envelope created per note.

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                              A Former User @DanH
                              last edited by

                              @DanH said in Global ADSR for multi-sampler engine:

                              @UrsBollhalder If you're happy to use a LFO Custom Table as an envelope you can route it to a simple gain modulator. Its not an AHDSR but it might get the job done and is reasonably intuitive to use

                              I thought about doing this as well... Just disable the loop etc.
                              But then there is the release problem, which is basically a mixture of delaying the noteOff and fading out the gain... 🤯

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                                A Former User @crd
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                                @crd By per note you mean pressed key, right? That would indeed be nice...

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                                  crd @A Former User
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                                  @UrsBollhalder yeah, sorry! per key is more accurate. Here is an old thread that mentions poly lfos: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/979/polyphonic-lfos

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                                    A Former User @crd
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                                    @crd There is now way around scriptnode it seems!

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                                      crd @A Former User
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                                      @UrsBollhalder I'm not sure scriptnode can help with this type of thing. I think it has to do with how voices are created and managed in Hise. Obviously @Christoph-Hart or someone who knows about more about C++/Juce would be able to tell us more.

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