Global ADSR for multi-sampler engine
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Ok. So here's my problem...
I have an engine with 2-3 samplers basically. They both do different things with the midi input... one is granular and the other one is more a kind of weird arp.
I want to set up a global ADSR control for the instrument, that controls the gain for the instrument as a whole.
How would I best go about doing this? With a simple gain in the main container and modulating it... Scriptnode?
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@UrsBollhalder Why not use an ADSR envelope in each sampler?
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@d-healey Because that is already handling the arp and granular envelope curves... So I hit a note on the keys and the granular triggers x-amount of notes while the key is being held and the arp also a couple of... all according to their individual adsr env...
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@UrsBollhalder What about putting a second ADSR in each sampler?
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@d-healey I also tried that. Bu they both react to the midi events that the script is passing down, which I don't want...
Why can't I add an AHDSR module for the containers? That would solve my problem of course... -
@UrsBollhalder Containers can't have envelopes, something to do with internal voice handling I think.
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@UrsBollhalder I don't think there is any way to get this to work. I would just control the volume of each of the samplers with a simple gain.
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@UrsBollhalder If you're happy to use a LFO Custom Table as an envelope you can route it to a simple gain modulator. Its not an AHDSR but it might get the job done and is reasonably intuitive to use
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Seems to be possible with scriptnode
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@d-healey that envelope is mono.
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@DanH That is also mono.
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@crd What do you mean? Nobody meantioned polyphonicness was required.
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@d-healey I could be wrong but I imagine he wants the gain envelope to react per note.
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@d-healey I'm pretty sure there is no way to get per note modulation going in the global modulator container.
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@crd Yep, after playing around with it I think you're are correct.
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@d-healey I think there is a years old feature request for polyphonic LFO's which I will resurrect. Polyphonic LFO's seems to be the only thing Kontakt still has over Hise.
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@crd We have polyphonic LFOs in scriptnode. https://forum.hise.audio/topic/4759/scriptnode-lfo-shape
In fact it was a problem I was having because I wanted each note to be in sync so I needed it to be mono (assuming I understand the terms correctly in this context).
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@d-healey I could be wrong but I think that is monophonic with different re-trigger behaviors. Similar to the legato button on stock Hise LFO module. Polyphonic LFOs would be an individual lfo/envelope created per note.
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@DanH said in Global ADSR for multi-sampler engine:
@UrsBollhalder If you're happy to use a LFO Custom Table as an envelope you can route it to a simple gain modulator. Its not an AHDSR but it might get the job done and is reasonably intuitive to use
I thought about doing this as well... Just disable the loop etc.
But then there is the release problem, which is basically a mixture of delaying the noteOff and fading out the gain... 🤯
