Open GL

[Christoph Hart]

I‘ve added it as runtime option in the settings menu so there‘s no need to build two versions.

[d.healey]

@Christoph-Hart Oh even better! :)

[orange]

Very cool ;) However, since Apple has deprecated OpenGL (from Mojave), maybe in the future the Metal support would be good too ;)

Why macOS Mojave requires Metal — and deprecates OpenGL | AppleInsider

In order to run the new macOS Mojave, Macs must have graphics hardware capable of supporting Metal, Apple's modern low-level, low-overhead software that provides access to graphics processing.

AppleInsider (appleinsider.com)

[ustk]

@Christoph-Hart said in Open GL:

I‘ve added it as runtime option in the settings menu so there‘s no need to build two versions.

I don't see it in the setting panel, is that normal? (macOS)

[Casey Kolb]

I'm also trying to render the entire plugin as OpenGL. Is this still an option in the settings? I'm not seeing it in any of the recent builds.

[Casey Kolb]

Oh, I think I found it in StandalonePopupComponents.cpp – line 128

#if !HISE_USE_OPENGL_FOR_PLUGIN
	properties[(int)Properties::UseOpenGL] = false;
#endif

[arminh]

I still have issue where on Windows everything is smooth but on Mac is really laggy :(

[Casey Kolb]

Hmm, it sped up my Mac plugin by like 200%. Crazy difference in speed.

[ustk]

So is it a pre-processor command finally?

[Casey Kolb]

I just set the flags in HISE before exporting

HISE_USE_OPENGL_FOR_PLUGIN=1

[ustk]

@Lunacy-Audio Ok thanks! I never think about the possibility to set flags in the preferences…

[Casey Kolb]

Yeah, same! I've had to do some digging for a few of them.

[Natan]

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[Lindon]

Isnt OpenGL depreciated on the latest Macs?

[Casey Kolb]

It's officially "deprecated" by Apple, but it's going to be around for a long, long while. The plugin I'm working on is using OpenGL almost exclusively for the main component and works across all Macs without any issues. With Windows it gets a little fishy because the graphics cards are all over the place, but in general also works fine.

[Lindon]

@Lunacy-Audio said in Open GL:

It's officially "deprecated" by Apple, but it's going to be around for a long, long while. The plugin I'm working on is using OpenGL almost exclusively for the main component and works across all Macs without any issues. With Windows it gets a little fishy because the graphics cards are all over the place, but in general also works fine.

yes this is my understanding too, however it's not so simple - the latest MacOS (and I assume all future ones) will use rosetta to virtualise your code - so you may see some performance hits as it morphs your OpenGL calls into Metal calls..

[Christoph Hart]

Doesn‘t rosetta just turn intel binaries into ARM ones?

[Lindon]

@Christoph-Hart said in Open GL:

Doesn‘t rosetta just turn intel binaries into ARM ones?

oh maybe it does - how do the OpenGL calls get managed then on machine that only has Metal?

[d.healey]

@Christoph-Hart said in Open GL:

Doesn‘t rosetta just turn intel binaries into ARM ones?

Is that possible without recompiling from source?

[Christoph Hart]

Yes, it converts the x86 assembly of a compiled binary to ARM assembly and then uses some kind of emulation layer. It works surprisingly well but you get a little bit of CPU overhead compared to a natively compiled binary for ARM.