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    • pcs800P
      pcs800 @dannytaurus
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      • David HealeyD
        David Healey @pcs800
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        @pcs800 That looks like it's in ms.

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        • resonantR
          resonant @pcs800
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          @pcs800 If this is Hise's stock Pitch Shift node, AFAIK, this node doesn't have a fixed delay compensation value. The delay amount changes depending on the pitch change.

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          • dannytaurusD
            dannytaurus @pcs800
            last edited by dannytaurus

            @pcs800 Try getting a value from Engine.getLatencySamples()

            EDIT: don't do that. Looks like that call just returns the value set by Engine.setLatencySamples().

            Use Tools > Check latency of signal chain to give you a real value.

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            • dannytaurusD
              dannytaurus @David Healey
              last edited by dannytaurus

              @David-Healey Yeah, good call. It should probably be the smp value, not the ms value.

              EDIT: see above 👆

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              • pcs800P
                pcs800 @dannytaurus
                last edited by pcs800

                @dannytaurus Ok, so put 7232 in instead of 164?
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                • dannytaurusD
                  dannytaurus @pcs800
                  last edited by dannytaurus

                  @pcs800 Yep, see if it sounds right.

                  Sanity check: 7232 samples at 44.1kHz = 163.9909297052ms

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                  • pcs800P
                    pcs800 @dannytaurus
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                    @dannytaurus After adding it, this is what I get with the plugin in a daw.

                    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZrUZcTNQj-GVh9GH7mndqMQTyzoaA_FO/view?usp=sharing

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                    • resonantR
                      resonant @pcs800
                      last edited by

                      @pcs800 As I previously mentioned, the delay is not a fixed value, it depends how much pitch change applied

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                      • dannytaurusD
                        dannytaurus @pcs800
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                        @pcs800 Yep, it's probably like @resonant said - each pitch shift will cause a different latency value. The lower octaves must have less latency and the higher octaves are giving the max 7232 latency. Therefore the lower octaves will come in too early.

                        Just an idea...

                        Find the latency of each one by putting it alone in a project. Then when you have all 4 latency values you can compensate.

                        Example numbers:

                        Pitch -2 = 4000
                        Pitch -1 = 5000
                        Pitch +1 = 6000
                        Pitch +2 = 7000

                        So the max latency is 7000 samples. Now you know how much fixed delay to add after each pitch node

                        Pitch -2 needs 3000 delay
                        Pitch -1 needs 2000 delay
                        Pitch +1 needs 1000 delay
                        Pitch +2 needs zero delay
                        Original needs 7000 delay

                        That should align all the outputs and as long as you report 7000 (or whatever) to the host, everything should be in time.

                        That might be all nonsense, but it's worth a try.

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                        • pcs800P
                          pcs800 @dannytaurus
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                          @dannytaurus Hmm, this is going to be tricky, but I will try. Thanks :-)

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                          • pcs800P
                            pcs800 @dannytaurus
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                            @dannytaurus This is what I came up with

                            Original signal only: 7232
                            -1oct:3068
                            -2oct:2659
                            +1oct:6143
                            +2oct:7232

                            Max: 7232

                            -1oct: Needs 4164
                            -2oct: Needs 4573
                            +1oct: Needs 1089
                            +2oct: Needs none
                            Original Sig: Needs none

                            I'll try it

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