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      DanSound @Lindon
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      @Lindon It seems that I managed to make a working PWM wavetable pwmDSonetrack.hwt.zip

      I can explain the process if this is something you're looking for.

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        Lindon @DanSound
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        @DanSound said in Wavetable creation:

        @Lindon It seems that I managed to make a working PWM wavetable pwmDSonetrack.hwt.zip

        I can explain the process if this is something you're looking for.

        Yes I think the procss needs documenting...

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          DanSound @Lindon
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          @Lindon

          I used Serum to create the wavetables, but anything similar like Vital or dedicated wavetable software should work.

          1. Export the wavetable as a single WAV file, not sliced into multiple files.

          2. Drop the file into a Samplemap, fill all keys from C-2 to G8, and save it.

          3. Open the saved Samplemap with the Wavetable Creator. The only parameter I change is Source Length to get the desired result.

          Every time you change a setting, click the large circular arrows icon to refresh the preview. As far as I understand, this rebuilds the waveform based on your current settings.

          After that, save the wavetable and open it with the Wavetable Synthesizer.

          For some reason, all my wavetables sound too high, so I use the Transposer to bring them to the correct range.

          Hope this helps.

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            Orvillain @DanSound
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            @DanSound You should set the root note of your file to the same root note played when sampling the source. That will cure your transpose issue.

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              Lindon @DanSound
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              @DanSound said in Wavetable creation:

              @Lindon

              I used Serum to create the wavetables, but anything similar like Vital or dedicated wavetable software should work.

              1. Export the wavetable as a single WAV file, not sliced into multiple files.

              2. Drop the file into a Samplemap, fill all keys from C-2 to G8, and save it.

              3. Open the saved Samplemap with the Wavetable Creator. The only parameter I change is Source Length to get the desired result.

              Every time you change a setting, click the large circular arrows icon to refresh the preview. As far as I understand, this rebuilds the waveform based on your current settings.

              After that, save the wavetable and open it with the Wavetable Synthesizer.

              For some reason, all my wavetables sound too high, so I use the Transposer to bring them to the correct range.

              Hope this helps.

              Well if it works for you fine, but I was more thinking...

              I have 200 single cycle wave files, how do I convert these into a wave file that I can load into the wavetable player....

              I assume step 1 =

              convert each of these files into a file of length = power of 2 , like say 1024 or 2048.....

              step 2 anyone?

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                DanSound @Orvillain
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                @Orvillain Thanks! Probably that's the issue.

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                  DanSound @Lindon
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                  @Lindon Step 2 = load it into Sampler's Samplemap, stretch from C-2 to G8 and save it.

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                    Lindon @DanSound
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                    @DanSound said in Wavetable creation:

                    @Lindon Step 2 = load it into Sampler's Samplemap, stretch from C-2 to G8 and save it.

                    see this:
                    https://docs.hise.dev/hise-modules/sound-generators/list/wavetablesynth.html

                    and the text there in:

                    Using audio files
                    With the recent rehaul of the Wavetable Synthesiser at HISE 4.1.0 the wavetable synthesiser is now also a AudioSampleProcessor , which means that it has an audio file slot that you can use to load any arbitrary wavefile into the wavetable synthesiser. This heavily streamlines the process of creating wavetables as well as provides the user the ability of loading own wavetables. You can even create wavetables programatically and send it directly to the synthesiser to be played back

                    so thats step 2 ONLY if you are building hwt files I think.

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                      DanSound @Lindon
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                      @Lindon So far, I don’t see any other way to make it work. Maybe it’s possible to use just audio files with some scripting, but there’s no documentation on that at all, so I’ll stick with hwt files for now.

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                        Lindon @DanSound
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                        @DanSound ..which was my point I think....

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                          dannytaurus @DanSound
                          last edited by dannytaurus

                          @DanSound @Lindon Here's how to switch between audio file wavetables:

                          Engine.loadAudioFilesIntoPool();
                          const wt = Synth.getAudioSampleProcessor("Wavetable Synthesiser1");
                          
                          inline function loadWavetable(component, value) {
                              wt.setFile("{PROJECT_FOLDER}" + component.get("text") + ".wav");
                          }
                          
                          for (b in Content.getAllComponents("Button")) b.setControlCallback(loadWavetable);
                          

                          Four audio files in Audio Files folder: wavetable1.wav, wavetable2.wav, etc
                          Four buttons in the UI, with button text as the filename: wavetable1, wavetable2, etc

                          Video demo here: https://share.cleanshot.com/LvnqfWlM

                          Notice it takes 1-2 seconds to load and process each audio file.

                          There's a cache method but it didn't speed up the load time for me on these simple wavetables. Mainly because, I think, the caching only skips the resynthesis step, which I don't think these simple wavetables need.

                          EDIT: here's a ZIP of the full project - https://wmd.d.pr/f/iIi4gG

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                            Lindon @dannytaurus
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                            @dannytaurus ok great this is part of the solution..

                            now lets assume we have 5 wav files and each is a single cycle, how do we combine these into a single wave file that we can load into the player and have some modulation source move through these as we play. Clearly its trivially simple to join these 5 files together - but how does the wavetable player know we are using (say) 2048 samples as our cycle size and not (say) 1024 ???

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                              DanSound @dannytaurus
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                              @dannytaurus Wow, that's cool! Does the 1-2 second load time apply to the plugin build?

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                                dannytaurus @DanSound
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                                @DanSound Not sure. Haven't tried compiling it yet. I think it's due to the calculations done after loading the file, so will probably be the same.

                                I'd like to test the caching more, to see if it can speed up the process.

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