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    • OrvillainO
      Orvillain
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      I'm getting a crash when using .setEffect() on a hardcoded polyphonic fx module. I'm doing something like this:

                      modeData["polyRMSlot"] = Synth.getSlotFX(modePath + "_polyRM");
                      modeData["polyRMSlot"].setEffect("polyRingMod");
      

      This is in the context of a loop, and modePath is the prefix of the name string.

      But interestingly, the crash only happens whenever I call Builder.clear()

      IE: On the first run, it doesn't crash. But if I try to rebuild the module tree, then it crashes.

      Going to try to reproduce this in a new project.

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      • OrvillainO
        Orvillain @Orvillain
        last edited by Orvillain

        @Orvillain @Christoph-Hart

        Right, I've confirmed this. Here is a demo project. Created on Windows. Not sure if you need to recompile the networks or not.

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        If you load this, the first time all will be fine. If you then press F5 to recompile the project, it will crash. If you remove the call to setEffect() then it doesn't crash.

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        I get a read access violation on:

        if(auto pitchChain = dynamic_cast<ModulatorChain*>(getParentProcessor(true)->getChildProcessor(ModulatorSynth::InternalChains::PitchModulation)))
        

        Details:

        Exception thrown: read access violation.
        hise::Processor::getParentProcessor**(...) returned nullptr.
        

        In this function:

        void HardcodedPolyphonicFX::connectToRuntimeTargets(scriptnode::OpaqueNode& on, bool shouldAdd)
        

        Hopefully that helps resolve the crash!

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @Orvillain
          last edited by

          Hopefully that helps resolve the crash!

          Nice one, it should be fixed now. I mean the builder docs says that you have to expect crashes but this is in fact a reproducable one :)

          IPP

          I made another attempt at this subject:

          • IPP on macOS and Linux is completely gonzo. You can use FFTW on Linux and VDSP on macOS (and ARM doesn't even support IPP so that was not very useful anyways).
          • The USE_IPP flag is now an internal flag and must not be set explicitely in any setting (in fact it will deliberately fail the compilation if it detects it being set from the outside). There are now only two things that determine whether IPP is used (on Windows only):
          1. In order to compile HISE with IPP support, the projucer setting Exporters -> VS2022 -> Use IPP (One API) must be set to "Static Library". This is the default now so people who want to build HISE without IPP on Windows must turn this off explicitely (readme is updated to reflect this).
          2. In order to compile your project with IPP, you must have compiled HISE with IPP following step 1 and then set the HISE setting Compiler Settings -> UseIpp to true. If you set this to true without HISE being compiled with IPP, it will throw an error (this is not really required but I think anything that boils down the ridiculous amount of scenarios is a good thing here). If the HISE setting UseIpp is true, it will automatically set the OneAPI setting in the autogenerated project file and subsequently set the internally used USE_IPP flag for the project compilation.
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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Christoph Hart
            last edited by d.healey

            @Christoph-Hart said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

            IPP on macOS and Linux

            Why not on Linux? It works well here. FFTW is only suitable for GPL projects.

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @d.healey
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              @d-healey Is there a single non GPL project on Linux?

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              • OrvillainO
                Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                last edited by Orvillain

                @Christoph-Hart

                Thanks for the fix! I'll check it, but I'm seeing this now:

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                Is that meant to be a comment, or a jassert or something???

                Oh wait, I think I get you now. I need to remove use_ipp..... brb....

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                  last edited by

                  @Orvillain nope that's expected. If you hit this thing, it means that you have somewhere defined USE_IPP to a value which causes all the weird stuff you're experiencing. Check all preprocessor definitions

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                  • OrvillainO
                    Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by Orvillain

                    @Christoph-Hart Yeppers! I just misread your previous post. Doh.

                    Compiling now. Will let you know about the crash fix.

                    BTW - I love the Builder! I don't know how many people are using it, but for doing repeated patterns in the module tree, it is a life saver!

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                      @Christoph-Hart said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                      Is there a single non GPL project on Linux?

                      Not sure, but if you remove IPP from Linux you guarantee that fewer developers will make their plugins Linux compatible.

                      Although I don't use proprietary plugins myself I know a lot of Linux users are crying out for more developers of proprietary plugins to support Linux.

                      HISE makes it really easy to support Linux so unless there is some good reason to remove IPP I think it's worth keeping.

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                      • OrvillainO
                        Orvillain @Christoph Hart
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                        @Christoph-Hart said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                        Nice one, it should be fixed now. I mean the builder docs says that you have to expect crashes but this is in fact a reproducable one :)

                        Right, yep !! This looks fixed.

                        If you want another crash to investigate, if you have the hardcoded fx window open at the time you recompile, it will crash. I'm guessing there's some GUI code somewhere that gets a bad pointer.

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                        • ustkU
                          ustk @clevername27
                          last edited by ustk

                          @clevername27 said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                          @Christoph-Hart Meanwhile, I was fired by all three clients because of HISE bugs and secret ScriptNode documentation. sigh

                          Same... I have one that is crashing some customer hosts and I can't seems to find why. simple stuff, no modulation inside, just scriptnode, faust and third party C++. Hopefully this will be fixed one day, but without a proper investigation chances are very thin...

                          Don't want to troll the thread that been said! But might worth to speak about that again during the meetup ☺

                          Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @ustk
                            last edited by Christoph Hart

                            @ustk Have you tried this:

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                            • OrvillainO
                              Orvillain @ustk
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                              @ustk said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                              @clevername27 said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                              @Christoph-Hart Meanwhile, I was fired by all three clients because of HISE bugs and secret ScriptNode documentation. sigh

                              Same... I have one that is crashing some customer hosts and I can't seems to find why. simple stuff, no modulation inside, just scriptnode, faust and third party C++. Hopefully this will be fixed one day, but without a proper investigation chances are very thin...

                              Don't want to troll the thread that been said! But might worth to speak about that again during the meetup ☺

                              Don't want you to try to teach you to suck eggs, but have you gotten a project from the user that reliably shows the crash, and slapped a debugger on the host process to find out what is going on?

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                              • ustkU
                                ustk @Christoph Hart
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                                @Christoph-Hart @Orvillain Yeah I did read and pasted here the crash report. Unfortunately I can't reproduce the issue so I can't slap a debugger. Will try more...

                                Unfortunately when I publish a new version the users need to resync their full library in LogicPro in order to get the plugin to update to the new version, so I can't ask them to do it 10x per day...
                                This is another issue, as I don't think people have to do this each time they update a single plugin (and one of the customers has more than 1000 plugins...). It's like no matter what you do with the version number, Logic doesn't take it as a new version. But I'm no Logic user so, who knows...

                                Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                                • OrvillainO
                                  Orvillain @ustk
                                  last edited by Orvillain

                                  @ustk

                                  If you can't reproduce the issue, checkout what platform they're on, and make sure their CPU supports all of the instruction sets required. If they're on a really really old machine that doesn't support the relevant SSE and AVX instructions that HISE and JUCE are using (no, I don't know what they are!!) then it's entirely possible that the issue isn't a bug.

                                  Also get all the information about the audio interface, sample-rate, buffer size, etc.

                                  Oh, and Logic is a real butthole when it comes to refreshing or clearing the AUCache - a lot of the time I've had to walk people through doing it manually.

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey
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                                    Seeing this on Linux when compiling HISE, I don't have USE_IPP in the exporter and it doesn't appear in the makefile.

                                    Still would like IPP restoring on Linux as there is no fallback like on MacOS.

                                    125 | #error "this should not be defined before this so if this error appears, remove USE_IPP from your preprocessor definitions...

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                                    • clevername27C
                                      clevername27 @ustk
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                                      @ustk Thanks for the solidarity. It's not trolling…I think it's a valid reaction, and suspect I'm far from the only one. And it's the kind of thing no one thinks will happen to them…until it does. @Christoph-Hart wrote right on the website's front page not to expect fixes, so it's not like he dropped the ball. But we can still be frustrated about it. When it works, HISE is great. But you know the saying…it's only free if you don't value your time.

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                                      • Christoph HartC
                                        Christoph Hart @clevername27
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                                        @Christoph-Hart wrote right on the website's front page not to expect fixes, so it's not like he dropped the ball

                                        Where does it say that?

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey
                                          last edited by d.healey

                                          [bug] It's still not possible to change a sample's RR group. It just sets it to 0.

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                                          I just noticed if I select a sample in the mapping editor and click the +- buttons (or enter a number manually) to move it to another RR group, it gets set t...

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                                          • MorphoiceM
                                            Morphoice @d.healey
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                                            @d-healey oh boy she's a beauty

                                            https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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