Wavetable Synth Hard Sync?
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Hi,
Is there a way to "hard sync" two wavetable synths? In other words to make the slave oscillator reset its waveform cycle every time the master oscillator completes a cycle.
Thank you.
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@RastaChess
Hello,
I'm still at a loss with this.I know that this can easily be done with a waveform gen. But it would be great with wavetables.
Any suggestions?
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@RastaChess
Not sure if this is possible as you've described it. It would be a nice feature though, perhaps it could be implemented in SyntesiserGroup, alongside the FM mode.
Maybe you could do it in Faust?
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@modularsamples I believe only two commands would be necessary. Something like .getWavetableCycleStage and .setWavetableCycleStage. With just those two it would be a simple few lines of code. I just don't know if they exist already with a different name or if there is another way to accomplish it, like with a synth timer or something. I've searched the API browser but didn't find a command that would be useful in this case. I don't know anything about Faust yet. I was waiting to see if someone in the forum knew how to script it before I requested the feature. I feel like this is an essential feature for any monosynth.
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@CyberGen Did you get anywhere with this?
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As long as the wavetable synth does upsampling after setting the playback position it should work I think. It depends a little on how the WT synth handles it's antialiasing.
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@DanH Unfortunately no. I requested it as a feature a some point. If I recall correctly @Christoph-Hart replied "I wouldn't hold my breath" suggesting it was not feasible. I have no idea how it works but I believe a new wavetable synth with dual oscillators would be required. Would be great to have it though. I'm still hopeful.
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Funny, I'm currently sitting on the wavetable synth, but hard sync is not possible without nasty artifacts - the reason is that I'm creating mip maps with perfectly band-limited wavetables for each octave but this goes out the window if you start hard-syncing the wavetables.
You'll get a bunch of other nice things though soon...
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@CyberGen yeah it cld def do with a nice upgrade. I don't think it needs to be a dual osc module - you could just have two of them!
I'd like to see some options for warping (pwm, sync etc). FM / AM we can do already.
An angled waterfall for the UI would increase overall sexiness.
Aaaaand @Christoph-Hart has just replied
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Might be of interest to you, but I've been working on c++ WT engine for Hise. It works and includes all the mentioned features.
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@griffinboy I cant wait to see this!
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@Christoph-Hart chanting CHRIS-TOPH! CHRIS-TOPH!
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You can always fake it in the meantime. A tweaked gain (0 - 24dB) before an fmod node gives us a sync-like effect. Switch fmod with rect, adjust gain values accordingly (-6 - 12 sounds about right) and you've got pwm.
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