Juce 8 questions
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I just got the email from Juce that they are going to release Juce 8 and they made some changes on terms of license.
I am currently paying for the $40 Indie (monthly) option, and now to continue using previous versions of Juce (if you do not have the Juce 6 perpetual license, like me), you must subscribe to Juce 8 ($50 per month, or $1000 perpetual). Well, that's what I understood from the message.
Do you think it is worth buying the perpetual version of Juce 8 and waiting for Hise to update to this?
@Christoph-Hart When you update the version of Juce in Hise, will you do it directly to version 8?
Oh and in the email it also said that the perpetual versions of Juce 7 will stop being sold in 30 days. So, I guess it makes sense for Hise to update straight to version 8.
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@bendurso yes I'm actually waiting for the official JUCE 8 release - there are some nice things in there (vsynced animation timers, Direct2D renderer etc).
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@Christoph-Hart Nice thanks. Once updated to JUCE 8, surely Hise will stay there for at least two years, right? I'm doing the math to see if it's worth buying the perpetual version.
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@bendurso yup, usually I'm 1-2 years behind with the JUCE version and you can expect JUCE 9 to not drop before 2026 (my ETA).
Also there are discounts for upgrading the perpetual license (I think 30%, so that also favors the perpetual license).
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@Christoph-Hart Hmm I keep reading about the license changes - they can come with a significant increase in cost depending on the company structure (if you have multiple people working on non-code related parts of the project like UI design or preset building, all of them need a separate JUCE license which might stack up pretty quick). I have absolutely no problem paying the 10-20% more for the actual license price increase, but I know of project team setups where you would need 5 - 10 licenses where before one or two licenses were fine and this is way to steep for the upgrade.
Let's wait a bit until the dust has settled here as I can imagine this will cause some discussions and the JUCE team was always pretty open to feedback and changing their terms).
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Products that provide JUCE as a service
You may not create, make available as a service, nor distribute software that creates software that contains JUCE. This encompasses all projects and products that provide the ability to generate plug-ins and standalone software that uses JUCE.The restriction on creating software that generates plugins or standalone software using JUCE appears to be directly targeted at software like HISE. This could directly affect HISE’s usability and legality under the new JUCE license.
Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd
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@Dan-Korneff actually it will create a problem for Maize Sampler and Romplur as they are JUCE based and produce binaries. HISE is fine because anyone who sells proprietary HISE plugins needs a JUCE license anyway, so from a legal standpoint HISE is just a glorified build script here.
But I'm almost 100% positive that they will backroll the announcement to some degrees, too bad they don't have a Unity CEO they can fire for this...
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@bendurso Now they're back to $40 monthly / $800 once for Juce 8 :)
And I think if you make up to 20k annually it's totally free with the starter tier, no need to display splash screen (I'm not really sure if it's for close source projects too)
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@bendurso said in Juce 8 questions:
I'm not really sure if it's for close source projects too
It only applies to close source projects
