Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?

Christoph Hart

@Natan I recommend the Macbook Air M1 with 16GB and the fastest CPU option (10 core I think). It compiles HISE almost as fast as my 9900K desktop without a fan.

The performance increases of the M2 is rather incremental, but a Macbook Pro with the M1 Max might yield another 20%-30%. Unfortunately the Xcode linker is still single-threaded which means that 60% of the compilation workload has to be done by a single CPU which is the biggest slowdown.

hisefilo

@Natan Macbook Air M1 did the job for me. I’m on a M2 now but compiling time is quick enough for both systems.

Natan

Back to this Topic, Okay I Picked up an M2 Macbook Air, Just for Silicon Exporting,

I Have a few questions:

What XCODE Version do I Need?
Do I need XPertyy? (I don't know the name even LOL )
Are there any Additional Changes that I need to do in the project or Xcode Only for Mac Sillicon Exporting?

Cheers

orange

@Natan

It seems that currently the latest compatible XCode version is 14.3 and the macOS version is Ventura (for now) Sonoma needs XCode 15 and that XCode version gives errors while compiling
Yes you still need xcpretty
Just compile the HISE without IPP, the process is straightforward

DabDab

@orange said in Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?:

@Natan

It seems that currently the latest compatible XCode version is 14.3 and the macOS version is Ventura (for now) Sonoma needs XCode 15 and that XCode version gives errors while compiling

Yes you still need xcpretty

Just compile the HISE without IPP, the process is straightforward

I have a question...
If I compile plugins from old Catalina OSX, does not run on M1/M2 machine, right ? What OSX (latest) will it support ( Intel CPU) ?

orange

@DabDab said in Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?:

@orange said in Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?:

@Natan

It seems that currently the latest compatible XCode version is 14.3 and the macOS version is Ventura (for now) Sonoma needs XCode 15 and that XCode version gives errors while compiling

Yes you still need xcpretty

Just compile the HISE without IPP, the process is straightforward

I have a question...
If I compile plugins from old Catalina OSX, does not run on M1/M2 machine, right ? What OSX (latest) will it support ( Intel CPU) ?

You can compile universal binaries (intel + arm supported in one plugin) on intel machines too. Minimum requirement is XCode 12.2 and Catalina 10.15.4.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple-silicon/building-a-universal-macos-binary

DabDab

@orange OK. That means if I make an AU (component ) or Mac VST3 plugins from Intel CPU & Catalina, will it run on mac Silicon and New OSX ?

d.healey

@DabDab Yes

orange

@DabDab said in Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?:

@orange OK. That means if I make an AU (component ) or Mac VST3 plugins from Intel CPU & Catalina, will it run on mac Silicon and New OSX ?

Yes, the plugin will work on Apple Silicon natively (no need for Rosetta).

The opposite is also possible. The plugin you compile as a universal binary on an Apple Silicon Mac will also work on Intel Mac too.

DabDab

@orange said in Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?:

@DabDab said in Do I need a M1 / M2 Machine for Apple silicon support?:

@orange OK. That means if I make an AU (component ) or Mac VST3 plugins from Intel CPU & Catalina, will it run on mac Silicon and New OSX ?

Yes, the plugin will work on Apple Silicon natively (no need for Rosetta).

The opposite is also possible. The plugin you compile as a universal binary on an Apple Silicon Mac will also work on Intel Mac too.

Lovely. Thank you for the answer and clearing my doubts.