Latency on Simple Gain's Table modulation



  • A Side Chain effect is widely used in EDM for giving a pumping effect to elements in order to make them sit with the kick drum. It's just a gain modulation with very tight, 0 offset or latency.

    To give this effect; a simple gain unit's gain parameter; modulated with a table. But there is a very small offset (maybe 3-5 ms) in table that doesn't allow to use this fx well.

    Issue video:

    If you compile this plugin yourself, you'll see that too.

    Hise snippet:

    HiseSnippet 1382.3oc4XssbaTCFVqsUabngld3hd4NLbQ5PIicHIzBWTm3CYL3jXrMkxvvjprqbrH6JsHq0od5zY3QfGAdE3ZtgGAdD3QnuAfj10dkcc7AHISJrW3w++R+Re5+rTcNyA2sKiCrx1pe.FXcKXy9TQmhcPDJnZIf06AaRbwQz61O.0sK1EXYkdOECqrY.5u27zcQdHpCNgE.7LFwAWi3SDIbCJ7kDOuJHWbKhuwr2rPUGFsHyiEJASZXNP.x4TzI3CPpokBBrfkcIBFuo.IvcAVY1k41uYG1Yzn4+LRWxwdXEQdPS4BEwtByyUgXEWPwNDO25CNzcAxEsdhJHcjJ39v8Itjg7STEqpGvNQBS8gUpoAu7lvK27COKC3kIBd2A1zgSBDIiDYlpREXdajzDXBqn4Br9MXQlbBTw59nSwU3RhgBr1V4x8H6M1J2C+71gTGAgQsYzCXB7gz0d3xuZ4rK+5kGej1smzPpMgy77v7IMpxjymhXqQC8OFyejcOjWHdv7jm7QUsvyW0ZZ4chNvFSjQqRIhCCvzySgCh0RRU+MhAkb6EZE+JwJ9VH0lQjp2kf5+mGnwqoquKRf.Vkga930G8q2gauwWE9DC5h8bW+iT+8IE0zxeZaRGgIMPRGAj2OFHM8jQlbMRtETERQzZ32FMyyJHiy8YLQGB8jEXA1MTHXzXkQM7IHA6elz2.ViwBFW127z4C5U33ezdRm86W.70UKoLFxfgXaqzdGf4BhxUxpDtmLIUTjUVXIb2SERXnL99ALpxSv5lyz7+xjM7CJzOgXsBmQbEcFx3EgE5fImzIIe3K7JDLv8qpbIuMrVkCs2m4F5IUkbkpabbLKqeBX9kdlfY0ouSAHtLSqLiPU8ISsfUo.ejwY6CKLevwzU5bPyOcvBflamrd5S3T.0Ry18LQ1e9klHp8XFqBOebiE3yVHUX79MevK1++b.2e9CWrfaE8tUlpbecmFBOmnrywp96e+Bfgn0KDSc5OtE0m4hUSnEVhKY+HN.vaWGTVMdvBaVhV0WR7.xZKiTKTUvi1kH5alf4Rot87B26.qSDNclLdSMA7JSicYi23tfVAVtcariHArYfUd9UbKO2bXSoD+.O7dCfxJwLr2a5skB.kvdnQzeeyHwQfusvDZb0J8nGrzyWCGS3vjYtcDT.29eiia54S6OCM9JQfDphb0Ha7X3YhqjnZipvwkSLsCnd31Ltebo2X9OnPbVSiYljEvXWFshfwrMSrYL+hgcEL+Aa5EUqYME3.c2EVeGb6MW+x4Cr.V5Y3NlZNcGum1nOz7pL+WyyjFg3g9duCf36B04lremoX0cg5bmu6.3Ug0QzqAvsAKTHyTsORvIx9bfGD52jExcTupBkh8TWo0Jk5dRQz4TzJ.0DSc0D+k7Kdv7JZq3AyOXPSUx8FT.emPWBSkODyiiQzbrUrrqK88v7oT67Ot3eRGUR78081kTYP2.TKNx4T00Elch7Fx79pGfHgW8BMQplAjFMtPE2arHMv8v7t3Q3Ug3E+pR1vWUuwgeQ4hsNpxg0JUtwqyuQtiC7Ua85mg5A7UJjHagtEUn0p+ZJfmbX8lMXLOMTcGL93sOjY9xWOi9hxbs9kpt5ZP+hoOmrCvXTijko8vdx.k3lwJgaiB8DC4ZBx8YTVPGFk3LpilL39jSvbSnOwyyNBgzY2LDnA1Ci5hMuATMBEi3iFqrPph7yupXZlqG.ifq9Ze1+23dUo+e48ptRpBcUrG9HGN6HmnmET4Kujli7bS0I0yB2WQaO7UYU5FeY5vibbTJ6ONO.LYI1Xgk3SVXI1bgkXqEVhsWXI9zEVhGOEIT0d1ITdcqnPO.3usMlReE
    


  • @Christoph-Hart
    Anything else about this?



  • Not on my priority list right now.



  • @christoph-hart

    Ok I understand. I'm thinking a shorter solution;

    I tried to mute the first 100 ms. It will not be looped, only first 100 milliseconds everytime plugin starts to play in DAW and in tempo sync.

    I've used this code but the startup click voice is still there, how can we solve it?

    const var MUTIZER = Synth.getEffect("MUTIZER");
    
    reg on = true;
    
    
    
    
    
    function onTimer()
    {
    	if(on)
    	{
    		on = false;
    		Synth.startTimer(0.1);
    		MUTIZER.setAttribute(MUTIZER.Gain, -100);
    	}
    	else
    	{
    		on = true;
    		MUTIZER.setAttribute(MUTIZER.Gain, 0);
    	}
    }
    


  • @christoph-hart
    I'm seeing "- fixed click at end of sample" on commits. Is that about this issue? Is it ok now?



  • No, it fixed the click at the end of a sample 🙂



  • @Christoph-Hart said in Latency on Simple Gain's Table modulation:

    Not on my priority list right now.

    Is that still not on your priority list?

    Or are we able to do this side chain effect (without any issues like this) with scriptnode?



  • @orange
    I just posted my problem without having read this topic. did you manage to make it work?



  • It Fixed?
    Any Solution With Scriptnode? 🤔



  • @Natanr not yet..... I hop soon...



  • I would say this is not worth doing until Hise can chase/know the playhead position.
    I would not use an envelope effect that was not aware of the timeline and dont think users would expect any kind of envelope/Lfo plugin not being able to do that.


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