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    • lalalandsynthL
      lalalandsynth
      last edited by lalalandsynth

      Another test , using the Convolution module (rather then the scriptnode) as it seems to me that they have the same issues. That is, when play cursor is placed close to the audio and playback starts, the convolution seems to miss the initial portion of the audio.

      When using the new DAW style timeline in HISE, placing a tiny audio snippet on the timeline, placing the playback cursor at the start of audio and starting playback, there is no issue.

      To test in a DAW ( using the provided dll)
      Make a tiny snippet of audio, place it on the timeline, start playback at the start of audio.
      The convolution reverb will not "catch" the audio.

      Then move your playback cursor at least 170ms before the sound starts and start playback.
      Now the sound goes through the convolution reverb.

      So the result seems to me like when you have a normal sound "vocal/pad" and start playback ,the initial sound comes out dry (or something ?)and then the reverb starts working. I might be wrong on the specifics of what is failing but that is what it sounds like.

      Here is an Win dll for testing, click to download

      Here is the snippet , super simple convolution.

      HiseSnippet 1235.3oc2X0saaTDEd1DuPSJT0VUp3x8BtHUpDYSSKn1KhS7OIFxOV1tMsRQpZxtGaOjcmYY1YSpEBtlGCdTr3I.ItkGh7F.mYW+yrgMAioMjhuHRyYlyNemuyuSZJEtPTjPRrVpyfPfX8Q1sGvU8qzmx3jFU0BpPUt8cTPjhr4fPZTD3QrrVbK8IrVp.I42YquI0mxcgohHjWHXtvNr.lZpzlk+FluecpGzgEXb50J2vUvqH7EwHZVztHIj5dLsGrGUerErIVePMOlRHaqnHXHVE1T3Mncewo7zy+BVD6HePunDoM9gREWW36oQrVJoReluWywVcDgXY2bJGrXJGbO6cYdrIxmxE2NYCmoZXxGVKjEdKlAdkLgWQC3kCjrLfTgTHcG61tRVnZ5NZ7bS6FbEH6RQZ2DJomkXMzth.O.WsZ.8XntDWLQgUdRwhOzA+yCdV2XtqhI3NB9dBErOekGr72u7RK+CK6b9s51M28zWiT36Cxb2V6okWlhqviCNBjOz4DpeLL4fn4mkSsuXN0zk6lZ0FGTvavYp8CA9EEHPFQUZ9eDpvHNUB6+IiX+Mh8XhCnm.cEx.BC456m2NkHIlgYlfGUQIVOyt9SOrEL33uEOo7Hmud6scVyPvgIel5LeH5vhO5.gv6TF2a2UOkdBQR48.jGjne01R+MSjTi6oW+6+HdUOuQU80Lx.PaAsuPPpXZpypJbBlMlFNsjcUH5XkHL4rAgBt1xs9v4zbeyTSsS4ASWzn7oLOU+IBFdZ49.qW+okCFdT4vwNgFd5qFg9IB+3j3iVflUPu0eMg.SEEdw9TU17ScQoQafefLIE5HedDSMvrn0asj1YEh2wtICKmlOFWHGLhty2EXbTotO1tV2tfqZJ.KXW+kuipqsfw8eiIsaXAg9vViu9aMRfiVRoKpgyO+KO9oCqB9zLD0AYB1HupbNsjZvwPJUSgOUddZdwY1NKc41YgYNVPaRNWqiWuqcBMecGjIt9q2f711Mo+W4raIvBp7d6RURFVr1du3f13bVt.BONG70sVsVP2DLccww8XZCbujE+A9azlkzqsFsYowaZRC2cbwEih4IbP9k2MIhpxAYGr7UCO.Tlo93HHC2AIDtalz2FAgw9QvN.umYQfyVeDtZvCiUlxedDrINgYOoHl60ouDndleulRv67EX1lUw3a7S+V4pzfPjWMOS85cF0icjn6UV2POcJ1+MC.DnofTuR.8Mia56KDgYlJPKvXnf2ZU0tpigtUJKdSre.GRdSRRDz8SV6nm8vYKfCRcRVoK4gI+5r9vjvY9gI66pvquCN+UTnHJyGtMDv5fSSEYJDizpKguqkNs2TdEAUl6VmsdczHyUm1TUrLo9wFAXfq5x5fUX170+MOPpv0tGH8dv3fYdC2RiwX5nM0vQP7wAymzesKM1WMVZ1X4cEbQXeAm4Z5naAXNXudfzD64ZPanTXMNyhQs.efZFz9Yk2AC1nRjmf4jKJ8O98r45u9T6T35nS.cd+cL9E+e8X7WIMBtJti.pqT7Z2z25qiSuQhDzt4IMqWxdW8ZmIOm21t3pEw9vdrW65po3OuDgjuNewbnyilCcVaNz4wygNOYNz4KmCc9pKUGcykMhUhfzTNTPyZI+KOrrpwoXzaRjN4OADPVNR.
      

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      • lalalandsynthL
        lalalandsynth
        last edited by

        Any chance of addressing this or verify, although I am 99% sure this is a bug.

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        • Dan KorneffD
          Dan Korneff @lalalandsynth
          last edited by

          @lalalandsynth I'm using a test file that is 8 samples long.

          In Cubase, I'm not seeing any issues using online or offline rendering.

          Screenshot from 2023-01-27 13-20-58.png

          In Reaper, I see an unexpected result when using offline rendering, but online rendering works properly.

          Screenshot from 2023-01-27 13-46-34.png

          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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          • Dan KorneffD
            Dan Korneff
            last edited by

            With larger files, it seems to render completely, but offline rendering contains a little glitch at the beginning.
            Screenshot from 2023-01-27 13-56-23.png

            This only affect audio when the rendering start point is directly at the beginning of an audio source. Starting offline bouncing a couple ms before audio will export properly.

            Screenshot from 2023-01-27 13-59-19.png

            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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            • ustkU
              ustk @Dan Korneff
              last edited by ustk

              @Dan-Korneff @lalalandsynth If audio is spitted out prior it comes in, it looks like a buffer is somehow not emptied properly in the DSP...
              This might also explain that a pre-roll cleans the buffer in time before audio is coming again...
              @Christoph-Hart ?

              Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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              • lalalandsynthL
                lalalandsynth
                last edited by

                Any chance of getting this fixed, would rather not release a plugin with this issue.

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                  rzrsharpeprod @lalalandsynth
                  last edited by

                  @lalalandsynth did you ever resolve this as I am encountering this issue at the moment.
                  It is quite noticeable in DAW (FL in this case) and puts me off using the reverb which is a shame as it is a flexible option to have.

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                  • lalalandsynthL
                    lalalandsynth @rzrsharpeprod
                    last edited by

                    @rzrsharpeprod No, sorry.
                    I am assuming this has to be fixed, have not found a workaround.

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                      paper_lung @lalalandsynth
                      last edited by

                      Was this ever fixed?

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                      • Adam_GA
                        Adam_G
                        last edited by

                        bump bump :D

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