Setting Custom Knob Ranges

[trillbilly]

Heyo,

Im trying to get multiple knobs in interact with a "Main Knob" at different values.

I was able to get multiple knobs connected to the Main Knob. Also able to set a specific value for each knob. Im stuck at how to set the range of each knob connected to the Main Knob.

Say I have this:
Saturator1.setAttribute(Saturator1.Saturation, 0.5)

I know the 0.5 is the set value, but how to do I set a range for this like "0 - 0.5"?

Any help or direction to documentation is appreciated!

[d.healey]

@trillbilly Post a snippet

[trillbilly]

@d-healey

Here is a quick snippet.

is you leave the "Value" part as just "Value" then they are free range. If i try to put a value (like .5 in the snippet) then it is a stationary value and cant be changed by the Master knob.

Another thing Im curious about is when you get the ranges set for Master Knob, how do individual knobs function? Will they be able to freely be changed but once Master is used they jump to that setting?

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[d.healey]

@trillbilly You probably need to be using setAttribute instead of linking the knobs through the property editor. This will allow you to manipulate the values in any way you like before they are passed to the other knobs. I made a video which covers some of this.

[trillbilly]

@d-healey Ok, great, Ill look into this tomorrow when Im back to the studio.

As for Ranges in that particular way, is it not possible then?

[d.healey]

@trillbilly said in Setting Custom Knob Ranges:

As for Ranges in that particular way, is it not possible then?

When you link knobs through the property editor you lose the ability to set individual min/max values for them.

[trillbilly]

@d-healey If I didnt link them via property editor and only used the script, could I then set the values?

[d.healey]

@trillbilly Yes, but you'd then need to use setAttribute() to handle all the communication between the knobs and parameters - as you'll see in the video :)

[trillbilly]

@d-healey Lol. Getting ahead of myself. Thanks, will check it out tomorrow.

[Matt_SF]

@trillbilly But if that's what you want, with simple maths you'll be able to do :

When Knob1 moves from 0 to 1, Knob2 moves only from 0 to 0.5...

[Lindon]

@trillbilly so as a hint: in psudo code:

range1 = knob1.max - knob1.min
percent1 = range1/100
knob1currentprecent = (range1.value - range1.min)/percent1

now you know what percentage of its possible value Knob1 is currently set to...

[ustk]

@trillbilly Or just use getValueNormalized and setValueNormalized, they are made for this use case.
The conversion is automatically made for you, free of charge :)

This way they are always exchanging 0-1 based values, hence the term normalised.

Note that you have to set the middle point to something else than -1 or Hise will complain...

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[d.healey]

@ustk said in Setting Custom Knob Ranges:

they are made for this use case

The API lies to me!

[ustk]

@d-healey lie in what way? (limited English warning :) )

EDIT oh sorry I didn't see the GET isn't there...

[ustk]

@d-healey I'll have a look to correct this in a moment...

[trillbilly]

@ustk Thanks! I can get the snippet to work with your 2 knobs, but when I create my own they no longer work. I'll keep trying.

When you say "middle position set to -1" what do you mean? I am looking at the knobs you created and in the Property Editor your knobs both have different values than -1. Am I missing something?

[d.healey]

Am I missing something?

@trillbilly Re-read what @ustk wrote...

[trillbilly]

@d-healey yes, I see it now. I checked out your videos and the advice of others here and was able to get the knobs working using the "setValueNormalized" function.

Now working on getting different fx modules to work together correctly.

For example, I have a Tempo Synced Delay and Reverb. The "Master Knb" is set to control both the Delay R and L Time (Tempo Synced) and the Reverb Room Size + Wet Knob. The knobs all work correctly unless I change the range of the knobs being controlled to something less than half of the full range, then they no longer work. Also, they are kind of jumpy and do not slide at the same rate (which isn't the biggest issue but would be nice).

Sorry, my explaining is horrible.

I know, getting ahead of myself again. I will continue with your videos and scouring the forum/documents for demo materials.

Thanks again.

[ustk]

@trillbilly It will be hard without a snippet