Arp Stopp on Preset Change



  • I have now looked at the 480 entries on the subject of preset browsers but have not found my problem.

    Drummachine - Arp is running - if I now call up the PresetBrowser and select a preset, the Arp stops. It shouldn't actually do that. How can I prevent the Arp from stopping when I change presets?



  • You can't - a preset change will send a all notes off message and kill all voices.



  • @Christoph-Hart Uuhhhh this is the knockout criterion I was dreading all along.

    I have 100s of plug-ins, lots of drum machines,
    Superior Drummer, GrooveAgent von Steinberg,
    Drum machine from SugarBytes
    XO, Atlas, Blincsonic Substance and many more.

    Not one of these plug-ins interrupts when the preset is changed - not one.

    Why does the arp have to stop running?

    Or better, why is it linked to a note?

    Actually, it should run independently either via the internal clock or synchronised via the DAW.

    No matter if a note is played or not.

    Is there a way around this?

    Is it not possible to include the start/stop of the arp in the preset? So when the arp is running, it is written into the preset. When I call up the preset, the arp runs automatically (because it is stored in the preset).

    If there is no solution for this, I have wasted my time for the last half year.

    Please tell me there is a solution

    How about a note off/note on solution
    Preset 1 note off - new preset same note on?

    In other words I have my finger on the C3
    Now when I change the preset, via SCript
    simulates that I have lifted my finger (note off).
    and immediately pressed again with the new preset note on?



  • @MikeB said in Arp Stopp on Preset Change:

    When I call up the preset, the arp runs automatically (because it is stored in the preset).

    Yes you can do that.

    In other words I have my finger on the C3
    Now when I change the preset, via SCript
    simulates that I have lifted my finger (note off).
    and immediately pressed again with the new preset note on?

    Yes you can do that too.



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  • @d-healey
    Thanks for your answer Dave,

    said in Arp Stopp on Preset Change:

    @MikeB said in Arp Stopp on Preset Change:

    When I call up the preset, the arp runs automatically (because it is stored in the preset).

    Yes you can do that.

    I have not been able to do that yet!

    In other words I have my finger on the C3
    Now when I change the preset, via SCript
    simulates that I have lifted my finger (note off).
    and immediately pressed again with the new preset note on?

    Yes you can do that too.

    Is there an example for this?



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  • @d-healey Thanks Dave - but that doesn't solve the problem that the arp stops running as soon as you change the preset.



  • @MikeB I just gave you the starting place. You can keep track of a held note between presets so you can use that to retrigger the arp as you suggested.



  • @d-healey Thanks for your effort Dave - but it doesn't work.
    I can hold the note and re-trigger it - the note will be played after the preset change - but the arp still stops and does not start again.

    There is no function that turns the arp on or off independently of a NoteOn event.

    I think it needs a button in the Arp with the function:
    Arp on/off
    Then you can control it with a script

    And with on/off I don't mean Bypass or Enable but RUN - Arp start and stop.



  • @MikeB do you have a snippet of how it is set up?



  • @ulrik

    Here is my test file.
    This is for a drum machine

    When you press the play button, the arp is started.
    If you change the preset now the arp stops.
    Although the state of the play button is saved.

    The aim is to keep the arp running - even if the preset is changed.

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