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    • MikeBM
      MikeB
      last edited by

      I have now looked at the 480 entries on the subject of preset browsers but have not found my problem.

      Drummachine - Arp is running - if I now call up the PresetBrowser and select a preset, the Arp stops. It shouldn't actually do that. How can I prevent the Arp from stopping when I change presets?

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      • Christoph HartC
        Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        You can't - a preset change will send a all notes off message and kill all voices.

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        • MikeBM
          MikeB @Christoph Hart
          last edited by MikeB

          @Christoph-Hart Uuhhhh this is the knockout criterion I was dreading all along.

          I have 100s of plug-ins, lots of drum machines,
          Superior Drummer, GrooveAgent von Steinberg,
          Drum machine from SugarBytes
          XO, Atlas, Blincsonic Substance and many more.

          Not one of these plug-ins interrupts when the preset is changed - not one.

          Why does the arp have to stop running?

          Or better, why is it linked to a note?

          Actually, it should run independently either via the internal clock or synchronised via the DAW.

          No matter if a note is played or not.

          Is there a way around this?

          Is it not possible to include the start/stop of the arp in the preset? So when the arp is running, it is written into the preset. When I call up the preset, the arp runs automatically (because it is stored in the preset).

          If there is no solution for this, I have wasted my time for the last half year.

          Please tell me there is a solution

          How about a note off/note on solution
          Preset 1 note off - new preset same note on?

          In other words I have my finger on the C3
          Now when I change the preset, via SCript
          simulates that I have lifted my finger (note off).
          and immediately pressed again with the new preset note on?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @MikeB
            last edited by

            @MikeB said in Arp Stopp on Preset Change:

            When I call up the preset, the arp runs automatically (because it is stored in the preset).

            Yes you can do that.

            In other words I have my finger on the C3
            Now when I change the preset, via SCript
            simulates that I have lifted my finger (note off).
            and immediately pressed again with the new preset note on?

            Yes you can do that too.

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            • MikeBM
              MikeB @d.healey
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              • MikeBM
                MikeB @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey
                Thanks for your answer Dave,

                said in Arp Stopp on Preset Change:

                @MikeB said in Arp Stopp on Preset Change:

                When I call up the preset, the arp runs automatically (because it is stored in the preset).

                Yes you can do that.

                I have not been able to do that yet!

                In other words I have my finger on the C3
                Now when I change the preset, via SCript
                simulates that I have lifted my finger (note off).
                and immediately pressed again with the new preset note on?

                Yes you can do that too.

                Is there an example for this?

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey
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                  • MikeBM
                    MikeB @d.healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey Thanks Dave - but that doesn't solve the problem that the arp stops running as soon as you change the preset.

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @MikeB
                      last edited by

                      @MikeB I just gave you the starting place. You can keep track of a held note between presets so you can use that to retrigger the arp as you suggested.

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                      • MikeBM
                        MikeB @d.healey
                        last edited by MikeB

                        @d-healey Thanks for your effort Dave - but it doesn't work.
                        I can hold the note and re-trigger it - the note will be played after the preset change - but the arp still stops and does not start again.

                        There is no function that turns the arp on or off independently of a NoteOn event.

                        I think it needs a button in the Arp with the function:
                        Arp on/off
                        Then you can control it with a script

                        And with on/off I don't mean Bypass or Enable but RUN - Arp start and stop.

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                        • ulrikU
                          ulrik @MikeB
                          last edited by

                          @MikeB do you have a snippet of how it is set up?

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                          • MikeBM
                            MikeB @ulrik
                            last edited by

                            @ulrik

                            Here is my test file.
                            This is for a drum machine

                            When you press the play button, the arp is started.
                            If you change the preset now the arp stops.
                            Although the state of the play button is saved.

                            The aim is to keep the arp running - even if the preset is changed.

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