Monophonic envelopes not working....correctly. :)



  • SOLVED : But does not work correctly , see below.



  • I think you have the same problem as this guy
    https://forum.hise.audio/topic/3045/monophonic-envelopes-not-working



  • @d-healey Yes, but that dude did not have the good sense of putting it into the Bug report forum 😉



  • @Christoph-Hart

    Ok, solved it , NOT a bug , you need two envelopes for this to work , second one set to Monophonic .
    Strange ! , lets see if it works ...

    Strange operation , if you set the release of the first one long , play a chord , and then retrigger , you will be retriggering the chord . Understandable ,since its two envelopes but weird operation.

    See example.

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    Add a legato with retrigger ,and the whole thing becomes a bit of a mess, retriggers sometimes and always ticks which is not good as mono mode would be at least on of the reasons to use this.

    What you can do to get closer to normal monophonic behaviour is have no release on the first envelope , but that obviously means no release available at all.

    See example.

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    Place the simple envelope AFTER the the mono envelope , and it still acts as the main release, which I think makes no sense ?
    Bit of a mess.

    In conclusion , the mono envelope just acts as an additional envelop on top of a poly envelope Unless I am missing something and someone can set me straight ?

    Set it to Retrigger and its unstable and always ticks when retriggering the envelope.

    See example.

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    It is practically impossible to emulate a simple analog monosynth with the current envelope situation , is this something that could be addressed?

    Is it possible to build an monophonic envelope using Scriptnode ?
    I tried something , but can only get a poly gate ..it should at least be possible to get just a normal gate signal , note either on or off , if there was access to that , maybe I could build one ?


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